Re: [wanabidii] Umri sahihi wa kutahiri watoto wa kiume!

ha ha JL NAJUA KWANINI WANASEMA HAYO SI UNAPUNWA PESA .SASA HIVI MTU
WA KWENU AKIJA KUOA KWETU LAZIMA TUOMBE CHETI CHA DK CHA KUKATA GOVI
NA UKIMWI MAANA NI UCHURO MKUBWA GOVI KUPEWA MKE

On 5/4/14, 'lesian mollel' via Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> Wanashauri mtoto awe na zaidi y miaka miwili..sababu zipo, ukimtairi chini
> ya hapo mtoto anaweza kupata shida uume wake kutoka inavyotakikana .....its
> too scientific lakini
> CC wamasai hatuna umri bali rika, hadi rika lenu lipata kibali toka kwa
> olawagwanani mkuu ambayenae olaibon wetu hadi apitishe na inakua kwa kila
> baada ya 7 year rika linaresign......this is to cultural lakini, sishaur
> watu wafuate hii yetu ya kimasai, tuachieni wenyewe..teh
>
>
> On Sunday, May 4, 2014 3:38 PM, Joseph Ludovick <josephludovick@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hili swala huwa hawafafanui.wanasema hivo tu.
> On May 4, 2014 3:36 PM, "Paul Lawala" <pasamila292000@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> JL
>>
>>
>>Wewe mtamu kivipi?ahahahah
>>
>>
>>
>>2014-05-04 12:23 GMT+03:00 Joseph Ludovick <josephludovick@gmail.com>:
>>
>>Makwega, nadhani jambo hilo ni more of cultural construct.nimekuwa na
>> wapenzi kadhaa wa pwani.issue ya kutokutahiri haijawahi kujitokeza.zaidi
>> wote hunisifia kwa usafi na kwamba Mimi mtamu.
>>>On May 4, 2014 12:10 PM, "adeladius makwega"
>>> <makwadeladius@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Duu jose unajinasibu kuwa wewe govi?kwetu wewe upewi binti wa
>>>>kuoa.Ukijulikana unapelekwa suna kwa nguu.Hongera kwa cheo
>>>>chako.Chezea binti wote kwetu pwani ukijaribu watakutahiri kinguvu na
>>>>bila ganzi.
>>>>
>>>>On 5/4/14, Joseph Ludovick <josephludovick@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Kwani ni lazima kutahiri? Mbona wengine hatujatahiri na maisha
>>>>> yanaenda
>>>>> kama kawaida?
>>>>> On May 4, 2014 11:54 AM, "adeladius makwega"
>>>>> <makwadeladius@googlemail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hoja na mada niwezipenda.Ushauri wangu kwa wenye watoto wa kiume kama
>>>>>> mimi ni kuwa ni vizuri kumpeleka suna kijana wako akiwa na umri wa
>>>>>> miaka kuanzia 10 kwanza hapo anajitambua,pili ataweza kutambua kazi
>>>>>> ya
>>>>>> kiungo hicho,nafasi ya kumuelisha juu ya mambo ya uzazi,nne kukipa
>>>>>> nafasi kindunduli kikue na wakati kinakaribia kuanza majukumu ya
>>>>>> uzazi
>>>>>> ndipo kinapotengenezwa.Kumbukeni wakati wa jando ndivyo ilivyokuwa
>>>>>> .Jembe linawekwa mpini masika.Asalaam alaikum.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/4/14, 'Reuben Mwandumbya' via Wanabidii
>>>>>> <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> > Konga;
>>>>>> > Umri wowote kabla ya miaka saba ni sahihi lakini pia usiwe umri
>>>>>> > mdogo
>>>>>> sana
>>>>>> > ili aweze angalau kujimudu,mtoto akishazidi miaka saba inakuwa sio
>>>>>> kutahiri
>>>>>> > tena bali kudondosha mkono sweta.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Reuben
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >>________________________________
>>>>>> >> From: jones konga <lufj.24@gmail.com>
>>>>>> >>To: wanabidii@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> >>Sent: Sunday, May 4, 2014 10:24 AM
>>>>>> >>Subject: Re: [wanabidii] Umri sahihi wa kutahiri watoto wa kiume!
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>naamini ukimtahiri mdgo sana ni rahisi kusahau maumivu kuliko akiwa
>>>>>> >>tayari amekuwa japo vipindi vyote ni sahihi kabisa katika masuala
>>>>>> >> ya
>>>>>> >>afya ila asizidi miaka 7
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>On 5/4/14, 'Reuben Mwandumbya' via Wanabidii
>>>>>> >> <wanabidii@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >> wrote:
>>>>>> >>> Comrades;
>>>>>> >>> Hivi ukiwa na umri mdogo (mtoto mchanga) manake husikii maumivu?
>>>>>> >>> Nazani alichosema Mhangwa kwa mimi ni sahihi,mtoto awe na umri wa
>>>>>> >>> kutosha
>>>>>> >>> kujiuguza na kujimudu.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> Reuben
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>>________________________________
>>>>>> >>>> From: Vincent Mhangwa <vmhangwa@gmail.com>
>>>>>> >>>>To: wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>> >>>>Sent: Sunday, May 4, 2014 9:56 AM
>>>>>> >>>>Subject: Re: [wanabidii] Umri sahihi wa kutahiri watoto wa kiume!
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>Kwa hiyo tuwape adhabu ya maumivu ya kutahiriwa ktk umri mkubwa?
>>>>>> >>>>Wakwangu nitamtahiri wakati wowote kuanzia aasa miaka 7 kabla ya
>>>>>> >>>> miaka
>>>>>> >>>> 10.
>>>>>> >>>> Sababu kubwa ili aweze kujimudu wakati wa kuugulia maumivu.
>>>>>> >>>>On 4 May 2014 01:38, "'Hildegarda Kiwasila' via Wanabidii"
>>>>>> >>>> <wanabidii@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>Atahiriwe akiwa mkubwa kabla ya kufika darasa la 7 yaani akiwa
>>>>>> >>>> darasa
>>>>>> la
>>>>>> >>>> 4
>>>>>> >>>> umri miaka 10, ili auone uchungu, aache jeuri. Kisha apate
>>>>>> >>>> mafunzo
>>>>>> >>>> ya
>>>>>> >>>> usafi na stadi za maisha, mila na desturi za kiafrika. Hii
>>>>>> >>>> itampa
>>>>>> >>>> nafasi
>>>>>> >>>> ya kuwa mpenda jamii, mlinda jamii na mwana maadili.Kuwatahiri
>>>>>> >>>> wakiwa
>>>>>> >>>> watoto ndio hawa tuleao digitali, katahiriwa siku chache baada
>>>>>> >>>> ya
>>>>>> >>>> kuzaliwa, hakumbuki kunoga kwake/uchungu na huwezi ukamfundisha
>>>>>> >>>> maana
>>>>>> >>>> yoyote. Ila watahiriwe hospitali sio porini ili kulinda afya
>>>>>> >>>> zao.
>>>>>> >>>> Wale
>>>>>> >>>> ambao watapata matatizo ya UTI na kuzia mkojo kutokana na ngozi
>>>>>> >>>> kuziba
>>>>>> >>>> (kuwa ndefu), basi wasaidiwe mapema. Mafunzo ya kumbi/unyago
>>>>>> >>>> yaliyoboresha
>>>>>> >>>> kwa mtaala wa kisasa husaidia sana kuliko ule wa jando na unyago
>>>>>> >>>> ya
>>>>>> >>>> zamani.Huu wa sasa madaktari/bwana afya wa zahanati, kituo cha
>>>>>> >>>> afya,
>>>>>> >>>> wakunga wa jadi, wazee wa mila, ngariba na somo/kungwi hutumika
>>>>>> >>>> kufundisha
>>>>>> >>>> masuala muhimu. Mitaala hiyo ipo imejaribiwa na NGOs kwa kutumia
>>>>>> >>>> Sera
>>>>>> >>>> za
>>>>>> >>>> nchi (Afya ya mwili na usafi wa
>>>>>> >>>  mazingira, HIV, katiba na masuala ya kimataifa ya haki za
>>>>>> >>> Binadamu
>>>>>> >>> etc);
>>>>>> >>> Mitaala ya In-school and out-of-school youth peer educators ya
>>>>>> >>> FHI-AYA;
>>>>>> >>> UNFPA (MCHC, Youth); Sera ya Vijana TZ. Kisha wazee wa mila,
>>>>>> >>> kungwi,
>>>>>> >>> somo
>>>>>> >>> hufundisha maadili na vijana kujua kucheza noma za kwao na
>>>>>> kushindanisha
>>>>>> >>> makundi na kutoka hadharani ili wakubalike kimila na kabila kuwa
>>>>>> >>> wapo
>>>>>> >>> sawa
>>>>>> >>> kama wale waliopitia jando la kisu kavu kavu na mafunzo kamambe
>>>>>> >>> kama
>>>>>> >>> ya
>>>>>> >>> 'Mshitu e nyumbae' (Ona kiambata).
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>On Saturday, 3 May 2014, 12:35, Juma Mzuri <jumamzuri@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>>>>Baadhi ya vitabu vya dini vinasema mtoto atahiriwe ndani ya siku
>>>>>> >>>>> 14.
>>>>>> Na
>>>>>> >>>>> huku wataalam wengine hushauri walau mtoto awe amefikisha miezi
>>>>>> mitatu
>>>>>> >>>>> sababu watoto wa kiume mara nyingi huugua sana UTI hasa akianza
>>>>>> >>>>> kutambaa.
>>>>>> >>>>> Mtoto anapotahiriwa akiwa mtoto mdogo anawahi haraka kupona.
>>>>>> >>>>>
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