Wewe unaishi dunia ipi dada, unazungumzia maandamano na mikutano??? Unanikumbusha ile hadithi ya mbwa mwitu na mbuzi, mchezo huu naona hautakuwa na mwisho kwa vile magoli yanahamishwa hamishwa.
2016-09-30 10:57 GMT+03:00 'Hildegarda Kiwasila' via Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>:
Hakukuwa na maandamano lakini kama inavyokuaga kwa raia kama akina Ulimboka, mapambano na wafanya biashara mababarani na askari kubondwa etc. Wakiandamana kama inavyokuwa kwa Raia akibondwa itaeleweka kwa wengi ambao hawasomi magazeti, tovuti etc.
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On Fri, 30/9/16, Ezekiel Massanja <ezekielmassanja@gmail.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: [wanabidii] WANAHARAKATI WA HAKI ZA BINAADAM NIELIMISHENI
To: "wanabidii@googlegroups.com" <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
Date: Friday, 30 September, 2016, 10:45
Ndiyo maana
Elisa nakuambia huwa sikuelewi kwenye mambo mengi
unayochangia kwa kupotosha ukweli, na unategemea sana tabia
ya watanzania ya kutopenda kusoma kuwadanganya. Kituo Cha
Sheria na Haki za Binadamau kilitoa tamko pale askari wetu
chapa kazi walipopata mkasa wa kuuliwa na majambazi. Na hili
sio jambo la kutolea kebehi kama unavyofanya hapa, kwa vile
askari polisi ni combo muhimu sana katika kulinda usalama wa
raia na mali zao. Tukiruhusu watu wenye agenda zisizokuwa na
mashiko kutumia kuuwawa kwa walinda amani wetu hawa ni
kuruhusu ujinga usio kifani kututawala. Ni bora ukatafuta
mada nyingine kupotezea muda wako.
Nimeambatanisha hapa tamko
lililotolewa ili usizidi kudanganya watu. Fuatilia mambo ya
Haki za Binadamu yanayotokea nchi hii kwenye tovuti hii: www.humanrights.or.tz
2016-09-29 22:11 GMT+03:00
'ELISA MUHINGO' via Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>:
Basi ipo haja kurudi nyuma na kuunganisha maneno. HAKI NA
WAJIBU WA BINADAMU.
Kama kweli madhali mtu kavaa magwanda ya uaskari akifaniwa
gasia na mtu ambaye hakuvaa magwanda basi wanaharakati
wanakaa kimya hiyo ni kasoro kubwa maana na askari ni
binadamu. Kama kundi la watu likiji-organise na kuanza
kunyanyasa maaskari mwanaharakati hahusiki nalo basi
uanaharakati ni ajera mbaya
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On Thu, 9/29/16, Telesphor
Magobe <tmagobe@gmail.com>
wrote:
Subject: Re: [wanabidii] WANAHARAKATI WA HAKI ZA BINAADAM
NIELIMISHENI
To: "wanabidii@googlegroups.com"
<wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
Date: Thursday, September 29, 2016, 3:07 PM
1.Kwa maoni yangu, haki
za binadamu ni kanuni za msingi za maisha zinazopaswa
zilindwe na mamlaka ya nchi ili raia waishi maisha ya
heri
(kanuni zinazolinda ustawi wa raia na mali zao).
2. Kanuni hizi za msingi ni kama
vile: kuishi, kuheshimiwa, kupata riziki halali ya
maisha,
kutekeleza majukumu ya kifamilia, kijamii, kupata
elimu,
huduma za afya, maendeleo nk.
3.
Jambazi kumwua polisi au raia au mume kumpiga mkewe au
mtoto
ni mambo ambayo yako nje ya haki za binadamu, lakini
yako
ndani ya makosa ya jinai kwa mujibu wa sheria za nchi.
Ila
polisi au mtu yeyote mwenye mamlaka ya kiserikali
akimwua
raia (kama si katika kujilinda au katika kutekeleza
wajibu
wake kisheria na unaoendana na kanuni za kimataifa
zinazolinda ustawi wa watu) basi hata hapo haki za
binadamu
zimeguswa.
4. Kimsingi, haki za
binadamu ni madai halali dhidi ya mamlaka ya nchi -
yaani
yale ambayo mamlaka ya nchi inapaswa iyatekeleze kwa
raia
wake.
5. Mamlaka ya nchi ikitekeleza
inakuwa kwamba nchi fulani inaheshimu haki za binadamu
na
ikishindwa/kukiuka au kupuuza inakuwa kwamba nchi
fulani
inavunja haki za binadamu.
2016-09-29 14:11 GMT+03:00
'ELISA MUHINGO' via Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>:
Loh swali
zuri sana. Na mimi ni mmoja kati ya watakaofaidika japo
nilikuwa naona aibu kuuliza.
Zamani sana katika mjadala mwanasheria mmoja alibwatuka
neno
ovu kabisa Akaseka " LENGO KUU LA HAKI ZA BINADAMU
NI
KUMTENGANISHA MWANADAMU NA MUNGU" Kabla hajaongeza
nikamvaa. Nikamshambulia.Akaniangalia kwa dharau. Mwisho
wa
maneno yangu akasema "Wewe ndugu naona una akili.
Subiri wakati ukifika tumia akili zako kuelewa."
Nikamuuliza wakati gani? Akasema pale itakapotangazwa
kuwa
NGONO NI HAKI ZA BINADAMU. Nikamwambia mpaka kurudi kwa
Yesu
hakutatokea kitu hicho. Ilipotokea namtafuta sana
kuntaka
radhi.
Jingine: Huwezi kuwasikia wanaharakati majambazi
wanapomuua
Polisi. Hawathibutu kusema. Lakini Polisi akithubutu tu
hutajua walikotokea.
Jingine: Kuna mataifa ndiyo tu yanayoweza kutoa tafsiri
ya
gaidi. Angola ilipambana na gaidi Savimbi lakini
usingesikia
akiitwa gaidi labda Nyerere tu. Ghadafi aliitwa gaidi
na
mataifa hayo kila mwanaharakati akamwita gaidi. Kuna
mmoja
nilimuuliza kwanini unamwita Gadafi gaidi akaniuliza
kama
juzi nilisikiliza VoA. Yaani kwake ni gaidi kwa sababu
VoA
ilimwita gaidi. Sasa hivi Urusi inaisaidia Syria
kupambana
na magaidi lakini husikii wanaharakati wakisema. Ila
Asaad
ndiye anaitwa muuaji. Ukiuliza watasema Husikii VoA
nini?
Atakayejibu atusaidie mpaka huko.
Muhingo
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On Wed, 9/28/16, 'Mashaka Makana' via Wanabidii
<wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
wrote:
Subject: [wanabidii] WANAHARAKATI WA HAKI ZA BINAADAM
NIELIMISHENI
To: "wanabidii@googlegroups.com"
<wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, September 28, 2016, 3:35 PM
Habari
wote katika jamii! Naomba kufahamu MSINGI wa
kuanzisha
shirika la kutetea haki za binaadamu! Mwezi huu
wenzetu
wa
Kagera walipatwa na madhara ya kuumia na wengine
kufariki.
Nini mchango wa wanaharakati wa haki za binaadamu kwa
majanga ya aina hii? Au kwa uhalisia wanaharakati wa
haki
za
binaadamu mmefanya nini kwa tukio hilo? Mbona
hamsikiki
kama
ilivyo katika matukio mengine mfano police wakitumia
nguvu
zaidi kudhibiti mfano waandamaji- mara moja utaona au
kusikia mikutano na waandishi wa habari kutoa matamko
ya
kulaani na nk.
Kwali lingine naomba kuelimishwa, mtu aliekufa ana
haki gani kama kifo chake kilitokana na kupigwa au
kunyongwa
au kupigwa risasi na wahalifu? Hapo je, wanaharakati
hakuna
kazi ya kufanya? Hili swali linawahusu pia wale
wanaopinga
adhabu ya kifo. Mfano mdogo tu, janga la tetemeko
limeua
watu Kagera na wengine wengi wanalala nje na wengine
darasani na watoto wanasoma na wahanga wakiendelea
kuishi
darasanina wengine kuhitaji matibabu na makazi halafu
unasikia au kushuhudia mtu au kikundi cha watu
wanahujumu
michango hiyo ya wahanga! Je huyu si muuaji? kwa nini
asiuawe au wasiuawe hawa?
Naomba kuelimishwa!
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