Tuesday, 23 February 2016

Re: [wanabidii] JINSI KARUME ALIVYOIUZA ZANZIBAR KWA NYERERE

Wakojani ni wengi sio tu kigamboni bali rufiji, bagamoyo wagunya na wakojani kibao bila ya wao samaki hakuna. Uhuru wa kutembea na kuhamahama upo mkubwa bara na ndio huo sana unaleta vita kati ya wakulima na wafugaji wenye ethics tofauti ktk private property na kati ya mazao na nyasi. Mh Nyerere ndio aliyeruhusu huu muingiliano bali tu usivunje sheria. Ukifaulu shule ya msingi kama kwenu moshi shule utasoma Mtwara au Morogoro. Wachaga na Wapare mmejaa milimani mtaleta degradation mbaya mnahamishiwa Morogoro na Kyera Mbeya si mmezoea milima? Mnyamwezi ndio Mdoe (wadoezi) historia ya utumwa na msaada wa kuwapiga wakamba aliomba Chief Pazi wa wazaramo akawapa ardhi wakae kama malipo wakaitwa wadoezi Kwa kifupi-Wadoe.
Waparakuyo Maasai walihamia Lugoba, Magindu miaka ya 1880s baada ya kupigana na serengeti maasai wakaingia upare mpaka coastal areas za Chalinze. Pamoja na Siasa na Sera za baba wa Taifa aliyekuwa Historian na aliyejua umuhimu wautaifa kwa vile watanzania waliounda makabila mbali mbali walikuja kutoka maeneo mbali mbali nchini aliruhusu kuchanganyika na alifanya makusudi kutuchanganya na kuishi pamoja kwa amani. Na katika uongozi wake alichanganya waarabu, wahindi, wazungu, waafrica kutoka mikoa na makabila mbali mbali-mbulu, hehe, makonde, maasai, zigua, kurya etc. Hata pamoja na kuishi pamoja unajua kuna specialization ya kazi pia kikabnila, ufugaji, uchongaji vinyago, uvuvi, mifugo, mizinga ya nyuki na kurina asali, ulinzi, kukata mbao. Na unajua kabisa ukitaka mtu wa kukulimia kibarua-Mrundi (aliyehamia bongo enzi zile kabla ay uhuru), mnyamwezi au msukuma; ulinzi-mmakonde; kukata miti-mhehe, mbena; samaki-mngunya, mkojani, mpemba watani kikabila wakifanyakazi yao wakati wa mazishi na sherehe kwa upendo kabisa. Shuleni kulikuwa na mashindano ya ngoma wakati wa sabasaba shule zikishindana kiwilaya. Ngoma ya kinyasa, kinyamwezi, kizigua, kimakonde inaweza ikachezwa na shule in coastal areas kutokana na mchanganyiko wa makabila na shule ya DSM ikashinda kiwilaya kwa kucheza kinyasa.

Lakini kwa sasa uhuru wa mtu wa Kagera kwenda kuishi baadhi ya maeneo hapa TZ utakuta yana utata unabaguliwa. Ethnocentrism inazidi kukua kwa sasa. Unaitwa-wakuja ikimaanisha-mhamiaji, mswahili ila wao kutwa wanaongea na kunywa pombe. Vijiji vingine unakuta mashamba ya walimu au watumishi w umma wa makabila sio ya hapo ndio yanaibiwa au kulishiwa mifugo eti watazoelea kukaa hapo. Au huwezi kupewa ardhi kama utaomba uhamie hapo. Yale mazuri mengi tunayasahau na kuonyesha mabaya tu. Tukubali kujenga umoja tuishikwa usalama. Mbona hapa bara makabila ni zaidi ya 120 na ni watu wa originality tofauti mpaka rangi ya mwili na nywele zao tofauti?
Munguibariki TZ.



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On Tue, 23/2/16, Jovias Mwesiga <ngonzy@gmail.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [wanabidii] JINSI KARUME ALIVYOIUZA ZANZIBAR KWA NYERERE
To: "WANA BIDII" <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, 23 February, 2016, 15:37

Haya
matatizo yataendelea kuwepo sababu kuonyeshwa mazuri ya
muungano bila Kandamizi na chungu yake.

Wabara wangapi wanaishi kule kojani? Mie najua wakojani
wengi tu wako pale kigamboni wanatulisha samaki.

Ule uhuru wa kutembea nikatoka kagera nikaenda kuishi
singida bila shida hamuongelei.

Tusipuuze uongeleaji wa yaliyotokea kwa mazuri ya muungano.
Vitu vingi vinaongeleka tunavikwepa kwepa tu.
On Feb 23, 2016 03:04,
"Hildegarda Kiwasila" <khildegarda@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:




Tuna uzoefu katika malezi. Unapokuwa na mtoto mtukutu,
hasikii anataka afanye atakavyo yeye na hajajitegemea, hebu
jaribu kumfungulia mlango mpe uhuru wake akae atakako lakini
kwako asikanyage maisha. Haitapita muda mrefu utamuona
kapiga hodi karudi. Utakaa utamwangalia na kumuuliza-vipi
leo umekuja na uliisha kuondoka? umefuata nini kwangu na
wewe ulitaka uhuru wako?



Utagundua kuwa maisha yamemshinda, walimdanganya marafiki
sasa wamemwcha. Walimpenda zamani kwa hela ya posho
uliyokuwa ukimpa sasa hana hivyo hawana faida nae. Ndivyo
tutakavyovunja muungano lakini hao wa UK, USA, Uarabuni
wanaoshauri zari watakuja kuwalamba kisha kuwaachia na
mazari yao kama ilivyo Libya, Iraq, Misri. Watajazana huku
kwetu watakapomailiza amani kule au kuwa wanaishi kwa
wasiwasina kuwindana.

Mungu atusaidies. Ukweli kwetu sisi ni tata majungu ndio
tiga.





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On Sun, 21/2/16, Jovias Mwesiga <ngonzy@gmail.com>
wrote:



 Subject: Re: [wanabidii] JINSI KARUME ALIVYOIUZA ZANZIBAR
KWA NYERERE

 To: "WANA BIDII" <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>

 Date: Sunday, 21 February, 2016, 15:47



 Mtoa mada kaleta kitu

 cha kujadili. Tatizo tunaweza ijadili kwa hisia
tukaacha

 uhalisia.



 Kuutunza au kuuvunja ni suala lililo mezani inategemea

 kizazi kipi kitasema basi.



 Hapa shida yangu ni wasomi kutotumia taaluma zao
kutatua

 makosa. Fukia fukia ya moshi wakati haya mambo
yanaongeleka

 italeta matatizo mbeleni.



 Kuna kitu sikukielewa kwenye andiko, inamaana Nyerere

 alichukua udhaifu wa karume nachojiuliza alifanya hayo
yote

 kwa manufaa ya nani?



 Huwa nasoma watu humu wakisisitiza udumu wa muungano
japo

 sina uhakika kama ni mazoea au sintofahamu.



 Hakuna kisichoongeleka, kama nchi tukiacha siasa
uchwara

 historia inarekebishika la tupo tupo twaishi kimazoea
huku

 wengine wakituambia suala la muungano liacheni ni nyeti
mara

 msilitibue....

 On Feb 21, 2016 04:11,

 "Pascal Mayalla" <pascomayalla@yahoo.co.uk>

 wrote:

 Ukibakwa ukatulia tuu, na

 kuendelea kuishi na mbakaji, na huku akiendelea
kukubaka

 kila uchao, huku kunahesabika ni kuidhia!.

 Pasco

  







 From:

 'jbifabusha' via Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>

  To: wanabidii@googlegroups.com



  Sent: Sunday,

 21 February 2016, 10:52

  Subject: Re:

 [wanabidii] JINSI KARUME ALIVYOIUZA ZANZIBAR KWA
NYERERE





 Muungano nani aliutaka? Ukilazimisha watu

 kuungana watafika wakati watengane kwasababu ndoa ya
lazima

 ni ubakaji.

 Sent

 from Samsung Mobile





 -------- Original message --------

 From: De kleinson kim <dekleinson@gmail.com>



 Date:

 To: wanabidii@googlegroups.com



 Subject: Re: [wanabidii] JINSI KARUME ALIVYOIUZA
ZANZIBAR

 KWA NYERERE





 Binafsi sijawahi kuelewa

 ni wapi haswa Hizbu, CUF na SEIF wanataka kuipeleka

 ZANZIBAR!!



 Hapa kuna nguvu nyingine ya ziada inahitajika. Lakini
baada

 ya kutumia nguvu shurti kero za muungano zishughulikiwe

 mapema. TUSIKUBALI KUVUNJA MUUNGANO, TUTAWAACHA NDUGU
ZETU

 KWENYE MANYANYASO NA SHIDA.



 Ila Hakika haya mambo yatakaa sawa.



 Mimi naona ni kujisahau tu!! Tumesahau wapi tumetoka,
na

 wa-bara wasioijua historia wanapigia debe gari
wasilojua

 linaelekea wapi.

 Sijaandika ili nieleweke…….







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