Friday, 28 November 2014

Re: [wanabidii] HALIMA MDEE AHUSISHWA KUMPA SUMU MKONO

Huyo anayejiita mabadiliko chadema ndio miongoni mwa watu tunaowatafuta ili waweze kusaidia vyombo husika.Hata ukijaribu kuposha umma haki itatawala......mwambie aliyekutuma amekosea sana....na uangalie sana usije ukawa chambo. Jukwaa hili sio la kuleta kila jambo la upoteshaji wa mantiki na masuala la maslahi ya Taifa. Wajumbe tusiruhusu hali hii kuendelea kujitokeza.....


 
"Do nothing from selfishness or empty conceit, but with humility of mind, regard one another as more important than yourselves;do not merely look out for your personal interests,but also for the interest of others.""So then, while we have opportunity,let us do good to all people,and especially to those who are of the household of the faith."
Philippians 2:3;Galatians 6:10


On Friday, November 28, 2014 7:49 AM, 'ezekiel kunyaranyara' via Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com> wrote:


Magobe,

Kuna watu hapa huwa hawajitokezi mara kwa mara lakini wakitajwa watu wa aina Fulani utawaona wakijitokeza kwa nguvu kwa kutetea tu. Mtizamo wangu ulikuwa hivyo. Hata hivyo umesomeka kaka uwe na siku njema.
 
K.E.M.S.


From: Paul Lawala <pasamila292000@gmail.com>
To: wanabidii@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 27 November 2014, 12:59
Subject: Re: [wanabidii] HALIMA MDEE AHUSISHWA KUMPA SUMU MKONO

Nico

Sorry,nilidhani tupo mabadiliko

Kumradhi!

2014-11-26 19:09 GMT+03:00 Jovias Mwesiga <ngonzy@gmail.com>:
paul uko wanabidii sio mabadiliko
On Nov 26, 2014 7:20 AM, "Paul Lawala" <pasamila292000@gmail.com> wrote:
Udhaifu wa kina Field Marshal?

Kanuni mojawapo ni kutumia majina halisi,huyu yupo hapa kwa muda mrefu lakini yupo

2014-11-26 15:53 GMT+03:00 Telesphor Magobe <tmagobe@gmail.com>:
Ezekiel, hoja tunayoijadili inatokana na kichwa hiki cha habari na maelezo yake: "HALIMA MDEE AHUSISHWA KUMPA SUMU MKONO"
"MBUNGE wa Kawe, Halima Mdee anatuhumiwa kuhusika kwenye tukio la kumpa sumu Mbunge wa Musoma Vijijini (CCM), Nimrod Mkono ambaye hivi karibuni alinusurika kifo akiwa London, Uingereza. Chanzo kutoka kwa mmoja wa watu waliokuwa kwenye msafara wa wajumbe 11 wa Kamati ya Bunge ya Katiba, Sheria na Utawala, kinasema muda mwingi Mdee alionekana na Mkono wakijadili masuala mbalimbali yakiwemo ya ESCROW. Chanzo hicho kinadai, anahisi Mdee amefanya kitendo hicho kwa maelekezo aidha ya chama chake (Chadema) au vinara wanaoshikila bango suala la ESCROW ili kuongeza utata wa suala hilo na kuipaka matope zaidi serikali ionekane inataka kuua watu muhimu kwenye sakata hilo ili kujinusuru."
"Chanzo hicho kinadai, anaihisi Mdee amefanya kicho kwa maelezo aidha ya chama chake (Chadema) au vinara wanaoshikilia bango suala la ESCROW..." Ukiashaweka 'hisia' kwenye hoja unaiua kabisa. Huweza kusema 'ninahisi niliwaona x na y jana jioni' ikawa na maana sawa na mtu mwingine anayesema 'niliwaona x na y jana jioni' Hapa tunachokijadili tunataka hoja inayojitosheleza/inayosimama yenyewe na siyo hoja isiyojitosheleza au inayotokana na hisia. Sina mpambe mimi. Ninachotaka ni mabadiliko tu ili mimi/sisi, wewenyinyi, yule/wale tuendelee/tuwe na mabadiliko katika maisha yetu.

On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 3:28 PM, 'ezekiel kunyaranyara' via Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Magobe

Ameguswa mteule wako ndio maana unauita ukweli huu kama "fabrication" eti?
 
K.E.M.S.


From: Telesphor Magobe <tmagobe@gmail.com>
To: "wanabidii@googlegroups.com" <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, 26 November 2014, 12:06
Subject: Re: [wanabidii] HALIMA MDEE AHUSISHWA KUMPA SUMU MKONO

Other people call such fabrication "intellectual masturbation".
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