Jonah Ongaro
You are wrong on this, there are balck Arabs to this day and there exists in millions across the Arab World. Perhaps the reasons why there are not as prominent as African American or "Afro-Europeans" is that there were absorbed in the soceity and accepted unlike those in the so-called Christian nations of American and Europe who were looked upon as sub humans and this wayward thinking even exists to this day even though there is a black African resident in the White House. They didnt have to agitate or fight agains their rights like in American and Europe.
Blacks were not only accepted but also intermarrriages among them and the "Whilte" Arabs was a common phenemenon. In recent years, prominet Black Arabs have emerged on the scene among them the former President of Egypt Awar Sadat and Prince Bandar bin Sultan, the highly influential former Saudi Ambassador to the United States who was considered the power behind the Saudi throne. In their country, they were not at all regarded as black Arabs but take just like the other "White Arabs." Their rise to prominence did not come after the "I have a dream" speech and was not celebrated as a victory for the black Arabs simply because they enjoyed equal rights like their counterparts, a fete which in this 21st century has not been fully achieved in the "highly progressive and developed" Christian countries of Europe and America who still look at someone with a black skin as a sub human being.
It is the Quran which gave Muslims these principle of racial tolerance which CANNOT be found in any othe faith. "O mankind, indeed We have created you from male and female and made you peoples and tribes that you may know one another. Indeed, the most noble of you in the sight of Allah is the most righteous of you. Indeed, Allah is Knowing and Acquainted. " ( Quran 49:13)
Prophet Muhammad peace be upob him also said, "All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white has no superiority over black nor a black has any superiority over white except by piety and good action."
Abu Ayman
On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 10:25 AM, Jonah Ogaro <jonahogaro@hotmail.com> wrote:
--An you know we do not have black Arabs. The African slaves were castrated so that they don't procreate. But African women could be used as sex slaves.
Compare this with blacks who were shipped to Europe and America. They were not castrated. That is why we have black Americans and other blacks in Europe.
Arabs are worse than wazungu.
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 05:41:27 +0000
From: njalale_m@yahoo.co.uk
Subject: Re: [PK] Kenya Foreign Policy is "FRAUD"! Yes to Washington-London-Tel Aviv, No to Riyadh-Beijing
To: progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.comChumba if u think slave trade died a natural death u r mistaken.It exsists to the
present day not even in a different form.Muslim or not get real
From: Jacob Chumba <jkchumba@hotmail.com>
To: "progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com" <progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, 25 November 2013, 4:53
Subject: RE: [PK] Kenya Foreign Policy is "FRAUD"! Yes to Washington-London-Tel Aviv, No to Riyadh-Beijing
--Maurice,I wonder whether you are making your presentation based on referenced work? The human slave market of Zanzibar of yester-years ferried thousands of black Africans to the Arabian Peninsula in those dark days of slave trade. It is true the first batch of African slaves were destined to Arabia. However, long before the beginning of the end of slave trade, slavery in Arabian peninsula had since ceased to exist; not because the male-slave population was exterminated by their Arab masters - as per your presentation - but because some wise sage whispered into the ears of African slaves of the existence of Islamic tenets which prohibit enslavement of Muslim by fellow Muslim. The African slave took heed of this Koranic provision and converted into Islam en mass during which they qualified to marry across color lines; and consequently slavery and its cousin - slave trade - died a natural death. One other contributing factor to non-existence of black-pigmented people in the region currently is the role assigned to African slaves upon arrival in the peninsula. Authorities took note of the muscular physique of the male African slave and saw it fit to draft him into military regiments to provide security and protection to the the leaders and the population. Over time, these soldiers were brought closer to the inner perimeter of castles and closer to the authorities, culminating in the staging of coup de tat in later years that saw power change hands from the designated rulers to the slaves!Maurice, on another angle: did you know that outside the MOTHERLAND (Africa), the country with the largest concentration of African diaspora is NOT United States of America? If you don't, let me tell you: it is BRAZIL!CHUMBA
Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2013 21:34:34 +0300
Subject: Re: [PK] Kenya Foreign Policy is "FRAUD"! Yes to Washington-London-Tel Aviv, No to Riyadh-Beijing
From: wasitara@gmail.com
To: wanakenya@googlegroups.com; progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com
That is a good one. We wait for 1st round tomorrow. Sodomised person can't finish 3 bout.
On Nov 24, 2013 9:29 PM, "Maurice Oduor" <mauricejoduor@gmail.com> wrote:Faiza,courage
I was sodomized by your mother and she loved it. Go ask her. In fact invite her to come and visit you out there in the rockies so she can explain it to you face to face.
On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 1:07 PM, Faiza Hassan <wasitara@gmail.com> wrote:
MAURICE
Who sodomise your RASA when you were in Kwale
On Nov 24, 2013 7:59 PM, "Maurice Oduor" <mauricejoduor@gmail.com> wrote:You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "WANAKENYA" group.The Arabs killed all the Black slaves when slavery ended. But by then, they had rapped some Black women slaves and had mixed kids and that's why sometimes you see dark Arabs especially in the Royal Families of Saudi and Kuwait.Courage
On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 11:43 AM, tasenaji <tasenaji@gmail.com> wrote:
The first slaves from Africa were taken to regions around Saudi and other Arab countries - where are black Arabs?On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 6:37 PM, Maurice Oduor <mauricejoduor@gmail.com> wrote:
CourageThis is a wake-up call by lawyer Kipkorir to all those who thing China and Saudi Arabia are the in-thing.Let them move to China or Saudi Arabia for just 6 months and then come back and tell us if they still think those should even be our friends. They will see the kind of racism that will shock them. They may never talk to a Chinese or an Arab ever again in their lives.
On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 9:46 AM, khaguli maurice <mkhaguli@yahoo.com> wrote:
By Donald KipkorirOur relationship with Washington, London and Tel Aviv, may at times be tempestuous but is eternal. Our friendship with Riyadh (Kuwait sings to its tune) and Beijing may look rosy now, but it is all hormonal and transient.We have to look beyond our immediacy and focus on our long-term goals. If we love Kenya more, we will never abandon our true friends for new ones. But we can cultivate new friends without abandoning the old.Truth be told, China and Saudi Arabia will not assist us in achieving our national goals and aspirations. Without the support of America, Britain and Israel, Kenya will never achieve Vision 2030 or even Vision 3000. They say history and statistics don't lie. And politics. We share same history, culture and legal system with America, Britain and Israel. Britain gifted us its language and legal system. America and Israel have tweaked their legal systems, but they still share the broad principles of Anglo-Saxon law.This legal system is underpinned in constitutionalism, three arms of government, independence of the Judiciary, periodic elections and accountability in leadership. These are the hallmarks of liberal democracy agreed by many scholars to be the highest form of human civilisation.Saudi Arabia and China are not liberal democracy or any shade of it. Saudi Arabia is the last feudal Kingdom in the world that doesn't even allow women to drive.World terrorism, including the recent Westgate Mall attack, is by young impressionable youth some of them indoctrinated and financed by Wahhabis followers, a conservative wing of Sunni Islam of Saudi Arabia. China thinks democracy and human rights are a privilege of the State.America and Britain are our biggest investors. Israel has always watched our back. The world economy turns on London and New York. Every global transaction is dollar-denominated. The world runs on dollar trading. Chinese Renminbi and Saudi Arabia Riyal, are useless paper outside their boundaries.China may be the world's second biggest economy in global terms, but at personal level, China is as poor as Jamaica. The per capita of Chinese is US$8,700 and ranked 98 in the world. USA, Israel and Britain each have per capita in excess of US$35,000. Can China be our friend when it is building Dar es Salaam to be the biggest port on the Indian Ocean? And when it is building the oil pipeline from Sudan oil fields to Port Sudan? Poor Mombasa and Lamu!Can we really benefit from our friendship with the Arabs and Chinese? Nyet! Saudi Arabia sits on oil and nothing else. Human civilisation is run on innovation, industrialisation, education and culture incubated in the universities. Any rankings of the world top universities will always have America, Britain and France at the top. America, Germany and Britain control over 60 per cent of world patents. Patent is the mark of innovation. Since inception of Nobel Prizes in 1901, 561 have been awarded, and USA citizens have received 270, Britain 101 and Germany 76. What skills and technology will China and Saudi Arabia gift us?On Israel, our relationship is more complex. Kenya claims to be 80 per cent a Christian nation. If this be true, then we have no choice but to stand by Israel till the Armageddon. If it wasn't for the then League of Nations and the push of The Earl of Balfour, Israel was to have been established in present day Uasin Gishu County.Our President, His Excellency Uhuru Kenyatta has the Executive authority to guide our foreign policy, but not at the risk of undermining our eternal sovereign will.The future of Kenya will always lie with the West. We can dance with the dragon under the Aladdin lamp, but without forgetting that the Statue of Liberty, Westminster and the Sea of Galilee is where we belong.The writer is an Advocate of the High Court of KenyaWe stand to emphasize the truth, truth is one!
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