Denis,
Jina lako linaonyesha wewe ni mkristo; pamoja na kutojua dhehebu, naamini unajua kuwa kwa wakristo kuoa zaidi ya mke mmoja ni dhambi! LKK
From: denis Matanda <denis.matanda@gmail.com>
To: wanabidii@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 10:23 AM
Subject: Re: [wanabidii] Re: [Mabadiliko] The love affair jolting Washington
Utaratibu wa kuoa wake wengi si dhambi ingawa si utaratibu mzuri.
Tusishadadie uoaji wa mke mmoja kwa kuwa tu unaungwa mkono na wazungu.
On Nov 19, 2012 9:06 AM, "Lutgard Kagaruki" <lutgardk@yahoo.com> wrote:
-- --Chambi umenena!Unajua mjukuu Mobhare, kwao kuoa zaidi ya mmoja ni kama jadi sijui? Mimi si mwanasheria, ila najua kuwa, kuoa mke wa pili ni kosa la kupelekwa kotini, wewe na mwanamke "aliyekwiba" mume wa mwenzie! Kwangu mimi, mume kuoa mke wa pili, ni waranti ya kumuacha, hata kama sitaenda kotini! LKK
From: Chambi Chachage <chambi78@yahoo.com>
To: "wanabidii@googlegroups.com" <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2012 9:31 AM
Subject: Re: [wanabidii] Re: [Mabadiliko] The love affair jolting Washington
--Nililala toka mchana sasa nimeamshwa usiku. Kwa jinsi ninavyojua hilo ni kosa kwa mujibu wa sheria ya Tanzania. Tena nasikia sio kosa la madai - ni kosa la jinai. Ngoja niwasubiri kina LKK waje watoe shule.
From: "matinyi@hotmail.com" <matinyi@hotmail.com>
To: wanabidii@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2012 1:18 AM
Subject: Re: [wanabidii] Re: [Mabadiliko] The love affair jolting Washington
May be a fault but not a crime.
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From: "Chambi Chachage" <chambi78@yahoo.com>
To: "wanabidii@googlegroups.com" <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
Subject: [wanabidii] Re: [Mabadiliko] The love affair jolting Washington
Date: Sun, Nov 18, 2012 12:59 am
Isn't that a crime in Tanzania i.e. having an affair - and didn't CCM use it to knock off a political opponent?
>________________________________
> From: Mobhare Matinyi <matinyi@hotmail.com>
>To: Wanabidii googlegroups <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
>Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2012 10:39 PM
>Subject: RE: [wanabidii] Re: [Mabadiliko] The love affair jolting Washington
>
>
>
>Oduor,
>The difference is that, in America, to start with, unlike in Africa or Canada, polygamy is not allowed by law; and that makes any extra-marital affair look so close to being a crime. This is just a psychological effect of the law. In Africa, we have no problem with one having many wives, thus, having a mistress in Africa seems like one step below having a second wife, to some extent. The problem is, a mistress is not a wife by any account which means, if you marry her, then you will have to find another mistress, and the chain will never stop.
>
>In addition to that, in American politics, any mistake, just any, is taken by your enemies as an opportunity to finish you off; remember Bill Clinton and his Republican foes. That makes extra-marital affairs an opportunity to knock down someone at least in the political stage.
>
>Now, speaking of civil service like the one that Gen. Petraeus was involved in - CIA chief - the irony is, if you cheat on your spouse, then the chances are you will also cheat on your job; that, you are not an honorable person.
>
>But this may not be a big deal frankly, the most serious thing is SECURITY CLEARANCE. Americans believe that anyone cheating is exposing themselves to problems such as being blackmailed by, say a Russian spy or a businessman or a terrorist. It started suring the cold war and truly, a lot of officials and spies were blackmailed in this way. The champions of this kind of blackmailing were the guys from KGB; the had a school in Russia called The House of Love, and its graduates were lethal in the the spy world. Since then, being faithfully was taken as an important factor in one's security clearance; therefore, if you cheat you lose your top security clearance, and in that case you can occupy any important office.
>
>Mobhare.
>
>
>> Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 23:40:51 -0500
>> Subject: [wanabidii] Re: [Mabadiliko] The love affair jolting Washington
>> From: mauricejoduor@gmail.com
>> To: mabadilikotanzania@googlegroups.com
>> CC: wanabidii@googlegroups.com
>>
>> Mobhare,
>>
>> This tells us about the huge difference between American and our
>> African politics. In Africa, such sex-scandals would not even make it
>> into the newspapers.
>> But I agree with the resignation of Gen. petraeus. If the person
>> closest to him, his wife, ca't trust him, how can the country trust
>> him?
>>
>> Courage
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/15/12, Mobhare Matinyi <matinyi@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > The love affair jolting Washington
>> > General Petraeus, his wife Holly, and Paula. When the two got married in
>> > 1974, Paul was two years old (Picture: The London Telegraph).
>> > Splash News
>> >
>> > Jill Kelley leaves her Tampa home on Monday.
>> >
>> > Jill Kelly, the woman who blew up things. Both women at the center of the
>> > sex scandal involving generals are married to medical doctors. (Picture: New
>> > York Daily News). Mobhare Matinyi, Washington DC The Citizen, Tanzania
>> > Thursday, 15 November 2012 23:38
>> > This e-mail address is being
>> > protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it Less
>> > than a week after US President Barack Obama won a resounding victory, the
>> > nation is busy trying to understand what befell the Director of the
>> > Central
>> > Intelligence Agency (CIA) until last Friday, retired General David
>> > Petraeus,
>> > 60.
>> > Petraeus
>> > resigned in disgrace after admitting to an extra-marital affair with a
>> > 40-year-old married woman, Paula Broadwell. The general and his wife,
>> > Holly,
>> > 57, a daughter of the late General William Knowlton, have two grown-up
>> > children, Anne, and Stephen, an officer in the US Army since 2009.
>> > The
>> > Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), functionally the equivalent of
>> > India's
>> > Central Bureau of Investigation (CBI) or Tanzania's Criminal
>> > Investigation
>> > Department (CID), is the agency that uncovered the scandal forcing the
>> > CIA
>> > chief to quit.
>> > The FBI
>> > has the authority to probe anyone in the US if they break the law. It was
>> > the
>> > FBI that finished President Richard Nixon during the Watergate Scandal in
>> > 1974, and his Vice President, Spiro Agnew, in a corruption scandal earlier
>> > in
>> > 1973. The law rules supreme in this nation.
>> > So who
>> > is Paula, the woman who brought down such a powerful man? Well, she is an
>> > intelligence officer in the US Military Reserves, a biographer of General
>> > Petraeus, and a doctoral student in military-related affairs at Kings
>> > College
>> > in London. She met the general for the first time while pursuing her
>> > Master's
>> > degree in public policy at Harvard University in 2006.
>> > Nobody
>> > really knows which came first, her interest in Petraeus, or her interest
>> > in
>> > his biography; but the story goes that a big chunk of the biography
>> > applies
>> > to her doctoral dissertation. Her medical doctor husband, Scott
>> > Broadwell,
>> > 43, is an interventional radiologist in North Carolina; a
>> > supportive-husband
>> > who took care of their two young children while she was writing the
>> > biography
>> > and perhaps having a good time with the general in Afghanistan and later
>> > in
>> > Washington DC, according to the press, even visiting and jogging with him
>> > at
>> > the CIA premises.
>> > How did
>> > the genie come out of the bottle? Sometime in the summer, Paula sent
>> > threatening emails to another woman in Florida, Jill Kelly, 37, accusing
>> > her
>> > of parading herself in the military base, touching "him" inappropriately,
>> > and
>> > interestingly Paula wondered if Jill's husband was aware of all this
>> > stuff.
>> > Coincidentally
>> > Jill, a mother of three and a socialite who volunteers to organise
>> > parties
>> > for military families, is also married to a doctor, actually a surgeon,
>> > going
>> > by the same first name of Scott!
>> > So Jill
>> > tipped her friend, so to speak, an FBI agent Frederick Humphries, 47, who
>> > once sent his shirtless picture to her. The agent made this issue a big
>> > deal
>> > so much that his superiors were mad at him. In the end Paula's name popped
>> > up
>> > and so was her romance with the general.
>> > The FBI
>> > went on to uncover another possible pillow-talk between Jill and another
>> > general, John Allen, who succeeded Petraeus in Afghanistan last year..
>> > Currently, the FBI is still reviewing thousands of emails that were
>> > exchanged
>> > between them since 2010, either to clear Allen or finish him as well..
>> > The
>> > press also has found that in the recent past the two generals became
>> > involved
>> > in a child custody battle between Jill's twin sister Natalie and her
>> > former
>> > husband, Grayson Wolfe. They independently wrote letters to the court
>> > witnessing Natalie's ability to care for the child. Truly, a friend in
>> > need
>> > is a friend indeed.
>> > So,
>> > what do all these noises mean to Obama's second term? First, the FBI is
>> > busy
>> > trying to figure out a possible prosecution against Paula and anybody
>> > else
>> > after collecting boxes of classified documents at her home. Where did she
>> > get
>> > them? Has she revealed anything that would compromise national security?
>> > President Obama said on Wednesday that he has no evidence that the sex
>> > scandal has impacted national security.
>> > Recently,
>> > while speaking at the University of Denver, Paula said that the attackers
>> > of
>> > the US consulate in Libya in August were trying to free their comrades
>> > from a
>> > CIA secret prison which Obama had outlawed in 2009. The CIA has dismissed
>> > that claim, but what does this mean? Will Obama administration officials
>> > end
>> > up facing angry lawmakers?
>> > General
>> > Allen was about to become the next commander of the US European Command
>> > and
>> > the commander of NATO forces in Europe, but that has now been put on
>> > hold.
>> > Apparently, he is the fourth general from Afghanistan war zone to get
>> > into
>> > trouble within the first four years of Obama's presidency.
>> > Now
>> > Obama may have to appoint new people to replace these scandal-tainted
>> > individuals and deal with the Libyan issue once again after escaping an
>> > embarrassing critique during the recently-ended election campaign. Nobody
>> > is
>> > going to blame Obama directly, but in any case this is not a good start
>> > after
>> > a tough election.
>> >
>> > http://www.thecitizen.co.tz/editorial-analysis/47-columnists/27212-the-love-affair-jolting-washington
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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