Mwalimu, thank you for this masterpiece!
Definitely the proletariats in Zanzibar too presumably committed suicide on 12th January, 1964 and it paid off handsomely.
Else, Zanzibar would till this very day be still under the hegemony of the oligarchic regime of the Sultan!
...bin Issa.
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Subject: RE: [wanabidii] Re: [Kiswahili] Vita Gaza
Maurice Oduor
The Mau Mau fighters for Kenya's self-determination were presumably committing suicide and it paid to do so! The ANC freedom fighters in apartheid South Africa were presumably committing suicide and it paid to so!! The people of Vietnam who fought first against the French colonial occupiers and then the US neo-colonial occupiers were presumably committing suicide when they pitied their rungu against the USA's AK-47 and napalm bombs by picking a fight with the Goliath of the world,US imperialism, and it paid to do so!!! Unfortunately history has already again and againd proved that it is wrong to think that the Hitlers of this world should be appeased because they had enough AK47s to rule the world. It is not true to say that the AK47s will always win over the rungus of the Lilliputian David of this world as long as these fighters are fighters for justice. The rungus often win in the end. With the Arab spring spreading like wild fire in the Middle East, the more Israel massacres thousands of Palestinian Arabs and Muslims in retaliation for the inconvinience of having to take cover from ineffectual Hamas rockets fired from angry Arab and Muslim youth in blockaded Gaza, the more the Israelis make the Egyptians angry and thus desire to join the fight against Israeli and its allies who keep occupying more and more Arab land and do not wish to negotiate the establishment of an economically and territorially viable Palestinian state that will live side by side with an equally economically and territorially viable Israel state. If Israeli leaders were sensible and not bent of committing suicide of a more historically foolish kind they will by now be responding to the inconvenience of the ineffective Hamas rockets by working even more to create conditions for negotiating with the Palestinian Authority President in Ramallah on the measures that are needed in order to establish, as quickly as possible, the two equally viable states in the land that used to be Palestine, and this on the basis of UN resolutions on the issue, including Resolution 242. Fighting for the establishment of two equally viable states, Palestine and Israel, is the only way the lives of Palestinians and Israelis can be spared from sure suicide of a foolish kind!!! If you love peace then advise Israeli to negotiate for a two states solution now before it is too late. An awakened Arab and Muslim world will in the future not allow Israeli to exist at all if this happens to be on the graveyards of tens of thousands of massacred Palestinian Arabs and Muslims. The rest of us in the world will suffer the consequences of driving Arab and Muslim nationalism to wall!!!!
Mwl Azaveli Lwaitama
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> What do yu mean by committing suicide.
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> Jameni, are these Palestinians trying to commit suicide? Why lob
> missiles to Tel Aviv and Jerusalem? Do they expect Israel to just sit
> by and watch? If all I have is a ? Huu ni wazimu haki ya
> nani.
>
> Palestinians should know that they can not fight Israel militarily and
> find other ways of dealing with their demands. I learned very early in
> life that life was not always just and that sometimes you have to sit
> down and negotiate with someone you really resent just so you can get
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> I really hope that the Jewish-Palestinian dispute will one day be
> resolve and will just remain a bad memory.
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> Courage
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Mwl Azaveli Lwaitama
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> Jameni, are these Palestinians trying to commit suicide? Why lob
> missiles to Tel Aviv and Jerusalem? Do they expect Israel to just sit
> by and watch? If all I have is a ? Huu ni wazimu haki ya
> nani.
>
> Palestinians should know that they can not fight Israel militarily and
> find other ways of dealing with their demands. I learned very early in
> life that life was not always just and that sometimes you have to sit
> down and negotiate with someone you really resent just so you can get
> what you want.
> I really hope that the Jewish-Palestinian dispute will one day be
> resolve and will just remain a bad memory.
>
> Courage
>
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