Re: [wanabidii] Pope Benedict Disputes Jesus’ Date of Birth

Fratern you simply exporse to me of what you realy are.a realist as you say can not want people to just believe without intensive scrutiny of what they believe. you could actualy want more of the pope on the subject.but this realist is content to just believe.poor realist he should be. The church has been this way.to say you are just a christian rather than a roman catholic christian as you may see,deprives you many things,one being your tainted vision of wahat the church is.one one side you seem to know what the matter is,but at the other you deny what you seem to know.you may be in a bad situation than you think,not only on matters of faith,but on wholistic issues.
Regards

On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 4:54 PM, Telesphor Magobe <tmagobe@gmail.com> wrote:

For me there's nothing new in what the pope has said and I'm not worried by anything. Even when Jesus explained what he came and stood for some of his followers left him. Let's tell people what they can understand and if they misunderstand, there will come a time when they be enlightened and come back. It's better we have enlightened church members than stupid saints!

On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 5:17 AM, Kilasara Fratern <kilasara.fratern@gmail.com> wrote:

I don't dispute the the early chapters in the Bible being what as you correctly put it "pre meval stories", but personally, I have no moral certitude to declare my stand as far as this is concern. After all, having grown with the Church circles, and since faith is personal and not democratic, not everything I know I should dispose it to the public and neither is my intention nor of any one else to make you accept and follow what I, he/she believes in.

You are entitled to believe in whatever you believe in and accept whatever you so feel is good for you. Unfortunately, as a Radical Realist Philosopher, I was raised to challenge not only the authority but even the faith in which I found myself. Luckily, the faith I cherish, Roman Catholic, survives after all the scrutiny of course with some wounds, and that today I am not just a Roman Catholic believer, but I am simply a Christian, in that Jesus Christ is the only authority I respect, nothing more or less! Does this sound rather confusing?

Just watch out, matters of faith are never straight in the mind except in the heart.

All the best Joseph!

On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Joseph Ludovick <josephludovick@gmail.com> wrote:

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