Re: [wanabidii] Marehemu Mzee Karume ana haki ya kuitwa BABA wa TAIFA la Tanzania – Mansoor Yussuf Himid - Mwanzo

Ipo siku mtatambia na nafasi ya John (Okello) --- On Fri, 11/16/12, denis Matanda <denis.matanda@gmail.com> wrote: From: denis Matanda <denis.matanda@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [wanabidii] Marehemu Mzee Karume ana haki ya kuitwa BABA wa TAIFA la Tanzania – Mansoor Yussuf Himid - Mwanzo To: wanabidii@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, November 16, 2012, 5:07 AM Tunaanza kupoteza uelekeo. Kama ninakumbuka vizuri matumizi ya neno baba, nashindwa kupata mantiki ya kuwa naye zaidi ya mmoja! On Nov 16, 2012 12:20 PM, <gm26may@gmail.com> wrote: Felix Charity begins at home Cheers Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone on the Tigo Tanzania Network From: Felix Mwakyembe <fkyembe@gmail.com> Sender: wanabidii@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 12:07:00 +0300 To: <wanabidii@googlegroups.com> ReplyTo: wanabidii@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [wanabidii] Marehemu Mzee Karume ana haki ya kuitwa BABA wa TAIFA la Tanzania – Mansoor Yussuf Himid - Mwanzo Mansour yuko sahihi kabisa, hatuwezi udharau mchango wa Karume katika ujenzi wa taifa hili. Suala la huko visiwani kutomuenzi, sidhani kama ni hoja ya msingi kwani hata Nyerere mwenyewe tunamuenzi kinafiki tu. Kulikuwa na propaganda nyingi sana dhidi ya Karume, mengi mema yake hayakupewa uzito kama ilivyokuwa kwa yale yaliyowachukiza baadhi ya watu. Karume hata asipotajwa atabaki kuwa Baba wa Taifa pamoja na Nyerere. Felix 2012/11/16 <gm26may@gmail.com> Kwa nin wao kwanza wasimpe ubaba wa Zanzibar kabla ya kumuombea ubaba wa Tanzania? Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone on the Tigo Tanzania Network From: Bariki Mwasaga <bmwasaga@gmail.com> Sender: wanabidii@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 10:49:32 +0300 To: wanabidii<wanabidii@googlegroups.com> ReplyTo: wanabidii@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [wanabidii] Marehemu Mzee Karume ana haki ya kuitwa BABA wa TAIFA la Tanzania – Mansoor Yussuf Himid - Mwanzo Nakubaliana naye katika misingi ya Ubaba wa Taifa la Tanzania kwani bila watu hao wawili tusingekuwa na Tanzania leo hii. Huu ni ukweli usiopingika 2012/11/16 <gm26may@gmail.com> Hawajielewi Halafu unamuombea Baba Mkwe heshima! Conflict of interest Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone on the Tigo Tanzania Network From: lucas haule <kisacha2003@yahoo.com> Sender: wanabidii@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 22:02:08 -0800 (PST) To: <wanabidii@googlegroups.com> ReplyTo: wanabidii@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [wanabidii] Marehemu Mzee Karume ana haki ya kuitwa BABA wa TAIFA la Tanzania – Mansoor Yussuf Himid - Mwanzo Ndugu nyiyi hasa kaka yako, akiwa anahutubia kuaga alisema na bado mnasema Zanzibar ni jamuhuri, sasa huyo mzee Kaqrume atakuwa baba wa Jamuhuri mbili? --- On Thu, 11/15/12, Godfrey Ngupula <ngupula@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: From: Godfrey Ngupula <ngupula@yahoo.co.uk> Subject: Re: [wanabidii] Marehemu Mzee Karume ana haki ya kuitwa BABA wa TAIFA la Tanzania – Mansoor Yussuf Himid - Mwanzo To: wanabidii@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, November 15, 2012, 8:08 PM Watu wengi wamehoji ushiriki wa karume ktk mapinduzi ya zanzibar against of Okero. Nafikiri maswali hayo hayajawah kujibiwa vizuri.Sasa basi,kuhoji ushiriki wa karume kwenye mapinduzi ya zanzibar implication yake ni kuhoji uhalali wa heshima anayopewa karume which  ndio msingi wa heshima zote. Nafikiri kuwa founding father wa taifa needs some  undoubpted special contributions on many things which infact are those that composes a nation.My advice is,come with those diversities to accompany your proposal.That wil be important as a base for the challenges and as well supports in that accord. ngupula ---------------------------- On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 7:48 PM EET Magiri paul wrote: >*Na Mansour Yussuf Himid* > > >Leo nami nimeamua kutoa mawazo yangu kupitia kwenye ukumbi huu. Kwa wale >wasionifahamu mimi ni Mansoor Yussuf Himid nimezaliwa Novemba 3, 1967, >kisiwani Unguja. Ni Mzanzibari kwa mama na baba. Kama walivyo Wazanzibari >wengine, wazee wangu pia wana asili ya pande mbili – Bara na Arabuni. Baba >yangu mzazi ana asili ya Bara ambapo upande wa baba yake ni Mnyasa na >upande wa mama yake ni Mmanyema. Na mama yangu ana asili ya Arabuni (Oman), >lakini ni mseto wa aina yake maana ana damu ya Kimanyema, Kisomali, na >Kingazija. Hali hii si ya ajabu kwa Wazanzibari, bali ni kawaida tu na ndio >hali inayotutambulisha Wazanzibari. > >Mimi ni Mtanzania kama walivyo wazee na ndugu zangu na wanangu na mke wangu >Asha Abeid Amani Karume, kama unajiuliza Karume yupi ni huyo huyo >unayemfikiria wewe ni Marehemu Abeid Amani Karume, Baba wa Taifa la >Zanzibar , mungu amlaze pema peponi na amsamehe kwa mapungufu yake na >amjaalie aendelea kutajwa kwa kheri na wema kama anavyo tajwa sasa. > >Marehemu mzee Karume ana haki ya kuitwa Baba wa Taifa la Tanzania pia na >wala mshishangae kwani Marekani Taifa la kupigiwa mfano kwa historia na >misingi yake imara ya haki za binadamu,demokrasia na utawala bora , wana >baba wa Taifa (Founding fathers) zaidi ya mmoja. > >Kwa wengine nikiwemo mie kutothaminiwa kwa marehemu Bwana Abeid Amani >Karume kwa kuitwa muasisi tu tena wa Serikali ya Mapinduzi Zanzibar wala >sio Nchi au Taifa la Zanzibar au Tanzania ni kutothamini mchango wake >katika kuasisi Jamhuri ya Muungano wa Tanzania kwani bila ya Zanzibar >hakuna Jamhuri ya Muungano wa Tanzania na ni sehemu ya kero za Muungano >wetu. > >Tuelewe kuwa kwa kumthamini marehemu Sheikh Abeid Amani Karume, hatuondoshi >nafasi ya Marehemu Mwalimu Julius kambarage Nyerere hata kidogo,nafasi ya >Mwalimu ni kubwa mno (iconic) kwa wengine iliotukuka (saintly) sio tu kwa >Tanzania na Afrika bali mwenyezi mungu amemjaalia Mwalimu kuthaminiwa na >kupendwa na mataifa duniani kote,mpaka hii leo miaka kadha baada kufariki >kwake, sababu za kupendwa kwa Mwalimu akiwa miongoni mwa viongozi wachache >duniani wenye hadhi kama yake ni nyingi kwa leo si dhamira yangu kueleza >wasifu wa Marehemu Mwalimu Nyerere. >http://wotepamoja.com/archives/10478#.UKUq0k5ySPc.gmail > >-- >Karibu Jukwaa la www.mwanabidii.com >Pata nafasi mpya za Kazi www.kazibongo.blogspot.com >Blogu ya Habari na Picha www.patahabari.blogspot.com > >Kujiondoa Tuma Email kwenda >wanabidii+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com  Utapata Email ya kudhibitisha ukishatuma > >Disclaimer: >Everyone posting to this Forum bears the sole responsibility for any legal consequences of his or her postings, and hence statements and facts must be presented responsibly. 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