Re: [wanabidii] Re: URAIS 2015 - UDHAIFU WA DR W P SLAA

Lucas,
acha "equivocation" sasa 'huyo' kibaraka wa ccm ni nani? dokta slaa,
mabadiliko chadema? mchangiaji aliyeuliza? aliyejibu au nini?

On 8/2/14, Lucas <lucsyo@gmail.com> wrote:
> Kibaraka wa CCM huyo......hana lolote.....yupo kwa maslahi yao ni mmojawapo
> wa wasaka tonge
>
>> On Aug 2, 2014, at 2:04 PM, Paul Lawala <pasamila292000@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Huyu mabadiliko CHADEMA ni nani
>>
>>
>> 2014-08-02 11:30 GMT+03:00 Telesphor Magobe <tmagobe@gmail.com>:
>>> 1. Mawazo mfu kweli kweli! Dr Slaa hajawahi kufukuzwa upadre, ila aliacha
>>> upadre na kama alifuata process ya 'laicisation' anaishi kama mlei kwa
>>> maana kwamba hayuko tena kwenye 'active ministry'.
>>> 2. Masomo ya upadre ni 'comprehensive' - yana'incorcoporate' taaluma
>>> nyingi kiasi kwamba padre anakuwa almost 'all knowing' kuhusu mambo
>>> mbalimbali ya jamii na namna yanavyoenda.
>>> 3. Kwa kukupa kwa uchache: masomo anayosoma padre ni pamoja na: logic,
>>> epistemology, philosophical ethics, moral theology, public speaking
>>> (homiletics), political philosophy, philosophy of social sciences,
>>> cultural and social anthropology, philosophy of languages, counselling,
>>> psychology, sociology, a history of philosophy, systematic philosophy,
>>> theology, exegesis (hermeneutics), environmental theology, contextual
>>> theology, liberation theology, interpretation of cultures, world
>>> religions, canon law & civil law, bioethics (+ medical ethics), economic
>>> theology, book keeping, genetic engineering, sexual ethics, human rights,
>>> etc. Haya ni baadhi tu na siyo yote mapadre wanayojifunza na wanajifunza
>>> haya at least kwa miaka 10 bila kuweka miaka mingine ya specialisation
>>> kwa wale ambao wanaendelea kusoma MA & PhD.
>>> 4. Hivyo, padre si kama wewe - amebobea kwelikweli na anaweza kuongea na
>>> mtu wa aina yoyote bila kubabaika yawe mambo ya siasa, jamii, uchumi,
>>> utamaduni, dini nk. Kuna baadhi ya mapadre wana'specialise' kwenye mambo
>>> ya lugha, uchumi, sayansi, siasa, sheria, Uislamu, dini za asili, ICT,
>>> umeme, mimea, kilimo, mazingira, ukimwi, utamaduni, muziki, udaktari wa
>>> binadamu (medicine),uandishi wa habari, utangazaji wa TV au radio, haki
>>> za binadamu, uhusiano wa kimataifa, etc. Pamoja na haya yote padre
>>> anafanya pia kozi fupifupi (miezi 9 hadi mwaka 1) kulingana na mahitaji
>>> ya sehemu anakofanya kazi kila mara muda wote anapokuwa kwenye 'active
>>> ministry'.
>>> 5. Unaweza pia kutembelea link hii:
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Roman_Catholic_cleric%E2%80%93scientists
>>> ili kuona kwamba kuwa padre si kuwa tu padre ni zaidi ya kile watu
>>> wanachofikiri au dhani.
>>> 5. Kutokana na haya yote, Dr Slaa ana uwezo ama sawa na wanasiasa wengine
>>> au zaidi yao kwa maana kwamba yeye anaelewa mambo mengi zaidi na namna ya
>>> kuyachanganua.
>>> 6. Kwa hiyo, siyo sahihi kabisa kumbeza kwa sababu huna ground yoyote ya
>>> kufanya hivyo.
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-08-02 9:05 GMT+03:00 <hosea.ndaki@gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>> Muganda, kati ya mbowe na kingunge yupi akiingia ikulu atawatumikia
>>>> wananchi ipasavyo? Katika nchi masikini kama yetu tunahitaji kiongozi
>>>> mwenye uwezo na nguvu ya kusimamia maendeleo yetu.
>>>>
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>>>> ------Original message------
>>>> From: Emmanuel Muganda <emuganda@gmail.com>
>>>> To: "wanabidii@googlegroups.com" <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Date: Friday, August 1, 2014 2:14:20 PM GMT-0400
>>>> Subject: Re: [wanabidii] Re: URAIS 2015 - UDHAIFU WA DR W P SLAA
>>>>
>>>> Ronald Reagan aligombea urais akiwa na umri wa miaka 72. Hillary
>>>> Clinton
>>>> hivi sasa ni 68 na ndiye front runner miongoni mwa Demokrats na hakuna
>>>> aliyemwambia
>>>> \wenzake wamestaafu. Let jingine.
>>>> em
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2014-08-01 11:39 GMT-04:00 Juma Mzuri <jumamzuri@gmail.com>:
>>>>
>>>> > Umesahau moja , ana umri wa miaka zaidi ya 60 yaani wenzake
>>>> > wameshastaafu .
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Friday, August 1, 2014 6:27:50 PM UTC+3, MABADILIKO CHADEMA wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> - Alifukuzwa Upadre wa Kanisa Katoliki
>>>> >>
>>>> >> - Ni kinganganizi mfano aliposhindwa kwenye kura za maoni
>>>> >> mwaka
>>>> >> 1995 jimboni karatu akakimbilia CHADEMA
>>>> >>
>>>> >> - Alibadilisha Katiba ya CHADEMA kuhusu ukomo wa madaraka
>>>> >> ili
>>>> >> awe madarakani Milele na chaguzi zisifanyike
>>>> >>
>>>> >> - Ametekeleza Mke wa kwanza na watoto mpaka ameshtakiwa
>>>> >> mahakamani
>>>> >>
>>>> >> - Mchumba ake wa sasa ni Mke wa Mtu .
>>>> >>
>>>> >> - Ana ulemavu mkono mmoja , alipata ajali mwaka 2010
>>>> >>
>>>> >> - Ni mtu mwenye hasira na mropokaji hovyo .
>>>> >>
>>>> >> - Hajawahi kufuta kauli ya kutomtambua Rais Jakaya Mrisho
>>>> >> Kikwete
>>>> >>
>>>> >> - Hana historia nyingine ya kitaaluma zaidi ya Upadre na
>>>> >> Ubunge .
>>>> >>
>>>> >> - Hashiriki Mchezo wowote .
>>>> >>
>>>> >> - Amejikopesha mamilioni ya CHADEMA
>>>> >>
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