Arbo, Joseph Ludovic & Teleshor Magobe,
Catholics Still Use False Decretals!
"THE FIRST certain statement concerning the blessings of liturgical vestments is made by the Pseudo-Isadore and Benedict Levita, both belonging to the middle of the ninth century, but the oldest known formula of blessing which is in the pontifical of Reims, belongs to the end of the ninth century" (Cath. Ency., XV, 391).
According to this ridiculous statement, 142 "infallible" popes used these forgeries and failed to detect them! I am wondering if millions of good people who have been defrauded by their hierarchy, should learn the source of their "traditions," if they would not turn away from the Roman Catholic Church? These things should deprive the hierarchy of all the respect of decent people. These forgeries are now woven into Canon Law (Cath. Ency., IV, 391, 393). We do not censure the "laity" who have simply been imposed upon.
Apocryphal Acts of Apostles;
Acts of Peter and Paul
Incorporated in Breviaries [Catholic prayer book] Etc.
THERE ARE numerous additional forgeries which, in a way are not so important, but we find that they are often the source of Catholic "traditions" which are highly prized. It is largely conjectural as to when these first appeared. Three different apocryphal Acts of The Apostles were drawn up by Catholic writers, two of which they claim were PROBABLY OF GNOSTIC ORIGIN, but they tell us how they were adopted by Catholics: "Hence most of the Gnostic Acts have come down to us with more or less of a Catholic purification, which, however, was in many cases so superficial as to leave unmistakable traces of their heterodox origin" (Cath. Ency., I, 610). "They abounded in extravagant and highly colored marvels and were interspersed with long pretended discourses of the Apostles" (Cath. Ency., I, 610). Of these documents, Catholic Encyclopedia says: "Much of their apocryphal [questionable] matter was taken up by the offices of the Apostles in the Latin breviaries and lectionaries, composed in the seventh and eighth centuries at an extremely uncritical period" (Cath. Ency., I, 610).
This is but an admission that they are used extensively by the Catholic Church today!
Prayer of Manasses—Adding to Bible!
THIS IS a prayer put in the mouth of Manasses, King of Juda (Cath. Ency., I, 605), which "is also incorporated in the ancient so-called Apostolic Constitutions. In editions of the Vulgate antedating [preceding] the Council of Trent, it was placed after the books of Paralipomenon [1st and 2nd Chronicles]. The Clementine Vulgate relegated it to the Appendix, where it is still to be found in reprints of the Standard text" (Cath. Ency., I, 605).
Several important matters hinge upon this. In the first place, it completely destroys the myth of Catholic certainty concerning the Canon of the Bible. Acknowledging now its apocryphal character demolishes the claim that the text of the Bible Canon was settled infallibly by the pope in the early centuries. Thomas Aquinas, the greatest Catholic teacher, quotes it from the Latin Bible of the thirteenth century (Summa, Third Part, Third Number, 87). This shows that it was then considered a part of the Bible, and that the Catholic scholars of that period did not know a forgery when they saw one, and did not know what constituted true Scripture.
From: Arbo <akihaule@gmail.com>
To: wanabidii@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, December 26, 2014 10:23 PM
Subject: Re: [wanabidii] Christmas: Where are you in the Bible?
Tumpe mda. Labda safari hii ataelewa, kwa kuwa hapo awali pengine alikosa rejea rasmi, akadhani kuwa hakuna na na Wakatoliki hawaijui Biblia na wampegia mafuruku matumizi yake, ingawa kwenye maduka yao ya vitabu ipo au niseme zipo za matoleo yote anayoweza hitaji!
-- Kuna Ndugu Victor pia , nadhani naye alitaka maandishi yenye rejea kutoka katika Biblia, hiyo katekesi itamfaa sana. Maana kila fundisho lina rejea husika.
On Friday, 26 December 2014 15:36:09 UTC+1, Joseph Ludovick wrote:
Tuwasubiri wasome.
On Friday, 26 December 2014 15:36:09 UTC+1, Joseph Ludovick wrote:
Na biblia inasema mtu akishaujua ukweli na kuuacha hali yake inakuwa mbaya kuliko ya mwanzo.
There goes MateruOn Dec 26, 2014 5:33 PM, "Joseph Ludovick" <josephl...@gmail.com> wrote:...Arbo
Unatwanga maji kwenye kinu.On Dec 26, 2014 4:07 PM, "Arbo" <akih...@gmail.com> wrote:Frank you need to read the Catechism of the Catholic Church in its entirety, to learn and understand her teaching. How she derives her doctrines and liturgies. After that , return and let's discuss based on what you read.I will attach here the document , just in case.
On Friday, 26 December 2014 06:10:05 UTC+1, Frank Materu wrote:Joseph Ludovick,"AND HISTORY shows only too plainly that the Church, in their sense of the term, has VARIED IN ITS DOCTRINE, taught dogmas at various times and at various places at the same time inconsistent with each other; and therefore to a considerable extent [is] erroneous" (Plain Facts, 34),Catholicism Assimilates Paganism"CHURCH ASSIMILATES and sanctifies Roman Civilization—from its foundations, the Church had gradually absorbed the best of the life, the organization, the institutions, the laws, the learning and whatever else of good and worth there was in the Roman Empire. What the Church thus took to herself, she transformed and sanctified so that, though Roman in its source, it was Christian in its form, influence, and tendencies.To the treasure of ancient civilization, the Church joined the great and luminous truths of God's revelation. Thus, doubly armed with the great legislative and intellectual acquirements of antiquity and the practical and saintly precepts of Christianity, the Church began to build up from Teutonic [Germanic etc.] and Roman elements the most perfect nations, and the grandest civilization that the world has ever known. So numerous were the difficulties of this formidable task that any other institution save God's Church must have lost courage and despaired." (History of the Church of God, B. J. Spalding, 379).It is easy to see that an institution modeled after the Roman Empire in its laws and governmental machinery, and which is a crazy-quilt patchwork of paganism in its doctrine and beliefs, would have little use for the Bible!
From: Joseph Ludovick <josephl...@gmail.com>
To: wana...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 7:32 PM
Subject: Re: [wanabidii] Christmas: Where are you in the Bible?
Materu
You take reguge to spelling errors?. Just do so. But.I will never seize to tell you the truth. Many of what you advance seem to be sterming from Ignorance.
A blind teacher will lead his disciples into destruction. Continue in your ways. False prophets then and now.On Dec 25, 2014 7:19 PM, "'frank patrick materu' via Wanabidii" <wanabidii@googlegroups.com> wrote:Nzela,Stop your judgmental hysteria. You need to repent of your absolute lack of sensitivity to the call of God for this generation to repent of their evil actions.Frank.
From: 'ngwananzela' via Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
To: wanabidii@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 5:33 PM
Subject: Re: [wanabidii] Christmas: Where are you in the Bible?
Frank,Your useless to your argument, no body you will turn him/her around.Nzela.Sent from Samsung Mobile-------- Original message --------From: 'frank patrick materu' via WanabidiiDate:25/12/2014 13:57 (GMT+03:00)Subject: Re: [wanabidii] Christmas: Where are you in the Bible?Telesphor & Company,"Bwana asemahivi, Msijifunze njia za mataifa, wala msishangae kwa sababu ya ishara zambinguni; maana mataifa hushangaa kwa sababu ya ishara hizo. [Yeremia 10:2].
The LORD reminds us today to becareful not to become involved with and participate in the customs andtraditions of the world that are pagan, false and idolatrous.
X-MAS TREE FOR EXAMPLE:
The cutting down of trees and decorating them to 'so-call' honor The LORD (?).
In Jeremiah 10:3-5, we read the following, "For the customs of the peopleare vain: for it is but a tree which one cutteth out of the forest, the work ofthe hands of the workman with the axe. They deck it with silver and with gold;they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not, ... neither ...is it in them to do good."
THERE IS NO EVIDENCE:
There is no evidence in The Holy Bible that Christmas is to be celebrated, infact, The Apostles, the disciples, the first true believers and even for thenext three centuries we find absolutely no record anywhere that anyone spokeabout or observed what we know today as 'Christmas'.
SO, HOW DID ALL THIS GET STARTE
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