Maurice Oduor,
You seem to place a lot of reliance on the advent
of "cholera" and the consequent "chiefs'" response! I need you to
appreciate one thing, though! There is, LITERALLY, nowhere on earth or
even outer space without "toilets"!!! What may be missing, or in short
supply, may be "latrines/lavatories"! That is why Wanjiku is talking
to you about "feeding fish with stool"!!!
Nyamodi Ochieng-Nyamogo.
On 11/22/13, Maurice Oduor <mauricejoduor@gmail.com> wrote:
> Mutala,
>
> You say a big thing wodma, a very big thing.
> You have no clue about the size of the sleeping giant that we have now and
> will only realize later if not sooner.
>
> Tribalism.
>
> The County system has now introduced a new round of tribalism that will be
> impossible to shake off. I can make those Proposal now to a few "selected"
> Counties.
>
> The Counties, as you have witnessed in the appointments of the Executives,
> are extremely tribalized. There is no non-Kikuyu Executive in Kiambu,
> there's no non-Kale Executive in Kericho, there's no non-Kamba Executive in
> Kitui, there's no non-Luhya Executive in Kakamega etc.
>
> Suppose I make a Proposal to Kiambu or Nyeri, it will be looked at as a
> joke and will land in the garbage bin the moment I turn my back even before
> I walk out the door. I'm now confined to make Proposals only to "friendly"
> Counties that may at least read the thing before filing it away to gather
> dust.
>
> A friend of mine, a Luo, who is a professor at the University of Carleton
> in Ottawa, Canada, was very much against this Constitution for this reason,
> the County system. He said that the County system was going to tribalize
> Kenya even further. I disagreed with him at the time but history is
> gradually and surely proving him right. You Mutala can not right now be
> considered even for a position of a County Executive in Narok County. Yet
> under the old system, you could be a Town Clerk there or even a DC.
> Don't get me wrong now; I think the County system is, on balance, a plus
> for Kenya. But it's full of tribalism.
>
> Courage
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Tim Mutala <timutala@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Now make a proposal to the County government. Tell them to stop misuse of
>> funds on trivial things like a swearing in ceremony. Trust me, 3.8
>> million
>> shillings can uplift a community if well utilized.
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 8:11 AM CST Maurice Oduor wrote:
>>
>> >88,
>> >
>> >Over the years, I have made all kinds of Proposals to the national
>> >government and to the Local Government Ministry. No one cared about
>> > those
>> >proposals. So you can not blame engineers for the lack of such utilities
>> as
>> >safe drinking water. Engineers are not the decision-makers.
>> >
>> >Decision-makers are the politicians and those District Development
>> >Committees chaired by DCs. In fact DDCs had the budget for the things
>> we're
>> >talking about but no one saw that money.
>> >
>> >Courage
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 9:06 AM, WANJIKU.GITHINJI.88 <
>> >rose.wanjiku88@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Okil - With all this Engineers? and Water Engineers.
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Nyamodi Ochieng Nyamogo <okil@nyamogoadvocates.com>
>> >> Sender: progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com
>> >> Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 14:38:19
>> >> To: <progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com>
>> >> Reply-To: progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com
>> >> Cc: KOL<kenyaonline@yahoogroups.com>; Friends of KCDN Group<
>> >> friendsofkcdn@yahoogroups.com>; changemombasa2012@yahoogroups.com<
>> >> changemombasa2012@yahoogroups.com>; mwanyegetinge@yahoogroups.com<
>> >> mwanyegetinge@yahoogroups.com>; newvisionkenya@egroups.com<
>> >> newvisionkenya@egroups.com>; uchunguzi online<
>> >> uchunguzionline@yahoogroups.com>; umoja_carolina@yahoogroups.com<
>> >> umoja_carolina@yahoogroups.com>; vuguvumashinani@yahoogroups.com<
>> >> vuguvumashinani@yahoogroups.com>; wanakenya<wanakenya@googlegroups.com
>> >;
>> >> wanabidii@googlegroups.com<wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
>> >> Subject: Re: [PK] Kenya- Dirty @ 50
>> >>
>> >> Wanjiku.88,
>> >> Is there even piped/clean water in that Godforsaken
>> >> County of "Siaya"?!
>> >> Nyamodi
>> >> Ochieng-Nyamogo.
>> >>
>> >> On 11/22/13, WANJIKU.GITHINJI.88 <rose.wanjiku88@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >> > Maurice - You are worrying about Electricity in Siaya. Are there
>> toilets?
>> >> > May be the basic could be toilet then Electricity - I saw a script
>> from
>> >> > Citizen TV the other day that there are no Toilets in Siaya they
>> >> > make
>> >> use of
>> >> > bush.
>> >> > -----Original Message-----
>> >> > From: Maurice Oduor <mauricejoduor@gmail.com>
>> >> > Sender: progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com
>> >> > Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 03:15:03
>> >> > To: KOL<kenyaonline@yahoogroups.com>
>> >> > Reply-To: progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com
>> >> > Cc: Friends of KCDN Group<friendsofkcdn@yahoogroups.com>;
>> >> > changemombasa2012@yahoogroups.com<changemombasa2012@yahoogroups.com>;
>> >> > Progressive Kenyans<progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com>;
>> >> > mwanyegetinge@yahoogroups.com<mwanyegetinge@yahoogroups.com>;
>> >> > newvisionkenya@egroups.com<newvisionkenya@egroups.com>; uchunguzi
>> >> > online<uchunguzionline@yahoogroups.com>;
>> >> > umoja_carolina@yahoogroups.com<umoja_carolina@yahoogroups.com>;
>> >> > vuguvumashinani@yahoogroups.com<vuguvumashinani@yahoogroups.com>;
>> >> > wanakenya<wanakenya@googlegroups.com>;
>> >> > wanabidii@googlegroups.com<wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
>> >> > Subject: [PK] Re: [KOL] Kenya- Dirty @ 50
>> >> >
>> >> > OTO,
>> >> >
>> >> > Bring me all that garbage to West Ugenya; I want to produce
>> electricity
>> >> > with it. Kisumu's garbage alone is enough to produce electricity to
>> >> supply
>> >> > the whole of Siaya County. I don't know why no one has ever thought
>> about
>> >> > such an idea in Kenya.
>> >> >
>> >> > You guys should really arrange a trip to these places in the West
>> >> > and
>> >> > compare notes with these folks here. They are doing amazing things.
>> These
>> >> > are all ideas that I have at one point or the other wriiten
>> >> > proposals
>> on
>> >> > and given the government of Kenya. But there's always some PS who
>> sits on
>> >> > the proposal and then refuses to return calls or e-mails. Bure
>> kabisaaa
>> >> > !!!!
>> >> >
>> >> > Toronto's Sewage Treatment Plants alone produce enough Natural Gas
>> from
>> >> the
>> >> > sewage, to produce electricity that runs all the 4 sewage plants
>> without
>> >> > any external power connection. They are self-contained with respect
>> >> > to
>> >> > electricity requirements. Nairobi's sewage alone can produce enough
>> >> Natural
>> >> > Gas to generate electricity for 3 million homes.
>> >> >
>> >> > In fact a girlfriend former classmate of mine went to Zimbabwe some
>> years
>> >> > back and started a project there to generate electricity from
>> garbage.
>> >> Her
>> >> > project was in a town of 100,000 people and the garbage generated
>> there
>> >> was
>> >> > enough to produce electricity for about 20,000 homes.
>> >> >
>> >> > Kenya lacks creativity and is letting alot of valuable resources go
>> >> > to
>> >> > waste. Dandora Dump should be non-existent because all that garbage
>> >> should
>> >> > be burned to supply electricity and the rest used as landfill and
>> manure.
>> >> > Separating garbage is thus critical.
>> >> >
>> >> > Courage
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 2:54 AM, odhiambo okecth
>> >> > <komarockswatch@yahoo.com>wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Dear Friends,
>> >> > We had taken some break from The Monthly Nationwide Clean-up
>> >> > Campaigns
>> >> > because we wanted to give the Governors time to settle.
>> >> > We have given them enough time, and from January 2014, we will be
>> >> rolling
>> >> > out a Clean-up Campaign with some difference.
>> >> > We want the process to be educative and economical, and as such, we
>> are
>> >> > inviting all our Partners across Kenya to roll out in partnership
>> >> > with
>> >> > the
>> >> > County Governments.
>> >> > Kenya is hitting 50 and it is very shameful that we cannot address
>> >> > our
>> >> > waste issues. We are still stuck with shifting waste from one place
>> >> > to
>> >> > another and our Directors of Environment are proudly calling that
>> Waste
>> >> > Management.
>> >> > Let us roll our sleeves and make Kenya Clean.
>> >> > Oto
>> >> >
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