Sawa kabisa Mike,
Lakini huyo mtu ili aweze kufumua mfumo ni lazima kuwe na misingi ya kikatiba inayompa nguvu nguvu na zaidi inayoupa umma nguvu.
Ananilea Nkya
E-mail:ananilea_nkya@yahoo.com
--------------------------------------------
On Tue, 7/28/15, 'Mike Zunzu' via Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: [wanabidii] UKAWA SUMU HAIONJWI HATA SIKU, UKIONJA UTAKUFA TU
To: "wanabidii@googlegroups.com" <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 2015, 4:05 PM
Kwenye
dunia ya leo jenda siyo hoja, tumekuja kuelewa na kuamin
zaidi kuliko pale mwanzo kuwa binadamu ni sawa, kwa hiyo
suala la kutoa nafasi sawa kwa wanawake na wanaume liko
sahihi, ila tu nafasi kama hizo zisitolewe kwa lengo eti
kuweka usawa, kuwe na nia njema ya kufanya hivyo, naamini
kabisa hata kusudi lingelikuwa ni lazima kuwa na Spika
mwanamke, kuna kinamama wengi tu makini hawakupewa hiyo
nafasi na ninaamini wangelifanya kazi bora kuliko kuwa mtu
mwenyenafasi nyetu kama hiyo kuwa msemaji wa chama. Je kwa
nini binadam ni vigumu kunakili kwa watu
wengini?Sipingani
sana na yule mtu anayesema mtu mmoja anaweza akawa chanzo
cha kufumua mfumo uliopo, inawezekana kabisa, kwa mfano Rais
akijitoa kupambana na walio chini yake wale watakaovunja
miiko ya uongozi, anaweza. Anakataa kata kata kugeuzwa kuwa
jiwe la chumvi at any cost. Siyo mtu
kuanza uongozi kwa nguvu na kadiri muda unavyopita nguvu
zinazidi kufifia na kuwa mtizamaji kama wengine wasiokuwa na
mamlka hayo.
On Tuesday, 28 July
2015, 15:36, 'ananilea nkya' via Wanabidii
<wanabidii@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Hapana John,
Mfumo unafumuliwa kwa kuweka misingi, siyo mtu
mmoja (Rais). Misingi ya kufumua mfumo Katiba ya Wananchi
CCM waliizika pale Dodoma. Tusijidanganye. Tulidanganywa
Bunge likiongozwa na mwanamke litakuwa poa kwa wananchi-je
ni kweli Bunge lililoongozwa na mwanamke limesaidia wananchi
au limewaumiza zaidi?
Ananilea Nkya
E-mail:ananilea_nkya@yahoo.com
--------------------------------------------
On Tue, 7/28/15, 'john msinde' via
Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
wrote:
Subject: Re:
[wanabidii] UKAWA SUMU HAIONJWI HATA SIKU, UKIONJA UTAKUFA
TU
To: "wanabidii@googlegroups.com"
<wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 2015, 12:39 PM
Muhingo
unasema...'Kama
ni mfumo CCM imeonekana
kuufumua ndiyo maana ikamtema
Lowasa....' sidhani kama hii ni sahihi. Yaani kwa
kumtema Lowassa ndio imefumua mfumo. Sijui
lini wameanza
kuufumua huo mfumo wa ufisadi
-past
habits die hard. Kweli tunapoongolea
siasa tunaongelea
uendeshaji wa nchi, sio
kamari, lakini ni muhimu kuwa na
madiliko
makubwa ya kimfumo katika huo uendeshaji. Maana ni
miaka zaidi ya hamsini tumekua na mfumo ambao
umezidi
kutuletea umaskini. Kwa hiyo ni
wakati sasa wa
kubadilisha. Tuko
kwenye vita kwa hiyo si busara kuchagua
silaha kupigana na adui yako. Mimi mtazamo wangu uko
zaidi
katika kuleta mabadiliko ya
uendeshaji wa nchi. Lakini
kumbuka Lowasa
alipokatwa hakuna mtu CCM aliyethubutu kusema
sababu ya kukatwa kwake, lakini pia sikatai
anazo kashfa za
ufisadi kama walivyo
wanasiasa wengine. Ni 'kashfa'.
Kama lowasa atahamia UKAWA na hao wengine uliowataja na
kama watapokelewa na UKAWA hatujalijua
bado. Ila kwa sasa
tumjadili Lowasa kama
ni mtu sahihi kwa UKAWA au la. Lakini
lowasa pamoja na kashfa zake bado ni mwanasiasa mwenye
mvuto
kwa sasa (ana wafuasi wengi
wanaoangalia mazuri yake), na
ndio maana
UKAWA wamevutiwa nae wakijua mapungufu yake.
lakini pia tusisahau utendaji wake na uthubutu
wake katika
kutenda, sitaki kueleza hapa
mfano wa mazuri aliyoyatenda
wengi
wanayafahamu. Tuzidi
kutafakari! John
On Tuesday, July 28,
2015 12:48 PM, 'ELISA MUHINGO' via Wanabidii
<wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
wrote:
John.
Unamuongelea Lowasa yupi aliyeutumikia mfumo
mbovu upi wa CCM?
Ninayemuongelea mimi ni
Lowasa aliyekuwa
akikusanya pesa za watu akizitoa makanisani
na misikitini. mfumo sawa ulimruhusu. namuongelea Lowasa
ambaye katika kukusanya kura za maoni
ameonekana kutoa pesa
kupindukia.
namuongelea Lowasa ambaye wapambe wake ambao
lazima ataongozana nao UKAWA ni Chenge,
Lostam, Karamagi
na wengine. naongelea
Lowasa ambaye kila aliyeona
anavyotumia
pesa alizosema anapewa na marafikizake
alijiuliza atawalipaje watu hao ambao hawataendelea
kufuatilia malipo yao CCM bali watamfuata
atakakokuwa. UKAWA
inajiandaaje kumsaidia
Lowasa kuwatuliza watu hao?
naongelea hayo
na mengine yanayofanana nayo na
ndugu John
tunapoongelea siasa hatuzungumzii kamali au
mchezo wa mpira. Tunaongelea uendeshaji wa nchi kwa
manufaa
ya watu wote.
Kumbuka watanzania walipokuwa
wanajenga
imani yao juu ya vyama vya upinzani na UKAWA sasa
hawakuwa wanajenga imani yao juu ya bendera za
vyama au
magwanda wanayovaa. Ni ahadi
zilizokuwa zinaonyesha
kutambuliwa kwa
matatizo yao. naongelea hayo yaliyosemwa na
UKAWA.
Kama ni mfumo CCM imeonekana
kuufumua
ndiyo maana ikamtema Lowasa.
Watanzania wanataka mabadiliko.
Wakiyakosa
ndani ya CCM watayapata nje. S\asa CCM
imefanya kazi kubwa. Imefumua mfumo kwa kuanza kuwatema
akina Lowasa.
Nawaza kuwa
huenda
wakayafurahia mabadiliko kwa
sababu hawana chuki na CCM
ila mfumo.
Mfumo ilioanza kuufumua.
Nisaidie
John kunielewesha zaidi.
--------------------------------------------
On Tue, 7/28/15, 'john msinde' via
Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
wrote:
Subject: Re:
[wanabidii] UKAWA SUMU
HAIONJWI HATA SIKU, UKIONJA UTAKUFA
TU
To: "wanabidii@googlegroups.com"
<wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 2015, 12:08 PM
najaribu
kuchangia hoja ya comments
za Muhingo na Mollel, kwa
mtazamo
wangu hili halina shida kwenye
siasa. lazima tukubali kwenda
na
mabadiliko. upepo wa
siasa ndiko huko unakoelekea, lakini
pia
tujifunze na siasa za nchi nyingine.
wakati
Kibaki
alipohama KANU Alisingiziwa
ni fisadi lakini akashinda
uraisi, na
tunaona siasa za kenya
zilivyobadilika baada ya
changamoto za
upinzani. maendeleo pia
yamepatikana. Ugomvi
wa ufisadi nchini
sio
wa mtu, ni tatizo la kimfumo. watu
wengi
hamtaki kelewa hili.
Kwa hiyo tatizo sio Lowasa tatizo
ni
mfumo wa chama alichokuwapo kabla ya
kuingia UKAWA. kama
alikua ni fisadi
kwa
nini hadi leo hakuna hatua zozote
zilizochukuliwa dhidi yake?
sasa basi kama lowasa
anahamia
UKAWA ataendana na mfumo na sera
za UKAWA ambazo zinagiga
vita ufisadi wa
kimfumo sio wa mtu
mojamoja ili kuleta
ustawi kwa watanzania. lengo ni kuleta mabadiliko ya
siasa
nchini kwa hiyo kama
lengo la UKAWA
ni kushika dola njia
iliyotumika ni sahihi.
The
ends justify the means. Ndugu
Muhingo
inabidi upanue fikra kuendena na hali halisi
ya
siasa na kuelewa hasa maana ya
mageuzi.wasalaamJohn
On
Tuesday, July 28,
2015 10:31 AM,
'ELISA MUHINGO' via Wanabidii
<wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
wrote:
Molel nadhani
una
matatizo. Toka tumepata uhuru siasa
za
Tanzania zinasema
maadui wetu ni Ujinga,
Maradhi na umaskini.
How comes you
are
telling people that in Politics we dont have permanent
enemies. It is America that dont have
permnent
friends
though
you can not creat enemities
beterrn it and
Israel.
usyaly we dont have
enemity with people but their
behaviours.
Hooligans cant
change just because they have
changed
memberships of political parties
--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 7/27/15, 'Lesian Mollel'
via
Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
wrote:
Subject: Re:
[wanabidii] UKAWA SUMU
HAIONJWI HATA SIKU,
UKIONJA UTAKUFA
TU
To: wanabidii@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, July 27, 2015, 2:16 AM
Elisa muhingo,siasa
hujui
na hutakaa ujue coz
unalazimisha
ubongo wako
kwenda
kusikotakiwa
mzee,read here
carefully'
in politics we
dont have
a
permeernent enemy' elewa bro au
niweke
kwa
kiswahiki
sanifu....kwenye siasa
hakunaga
uadui wa kudumu
,,,,,,,
Remeber slaa
katoka ccm'sasa
lowasa
kuingia chadema
ni shida mzee,kwann asiingie
ilhali
ni mtanzani na hana hatia yeyote
na ana mengi
ambayo
anayo
sirini na kibaya zaidi anungwa
na watu wengi ambao nyinyi
hamuwaoni
kabisaaaaa,ila wao wanojua siasa
wanaona'stop
your eneminity
bropeace
and love...usije ufe
na dhambi ya
chuki
Lesian
Hosea
Ndaki
<hosea.ndaki@gmail.com>
wrote:
Tuwe
na subira, ccm
wameshatangaza wa kwao,
tusubiri na wengine ukawa
chadema cuf adc act, na tuone
sera
na ilani ya kila
mmoja,
hatuwezi
kufanya maamuzi kwa
mwali
mmoja aliyechezwa
ngoma wakati wengine bado
wako kwa
shangazi
na kungwi.
Hatujazijua
sera za ccm
na
ilani yao ya
uchaguzi, hivyo
hivyo kwa ukawa na
wengine, kipenga
kikishapulizwa na kila mmoja
akaanza
kujinadi ndipo
tutafanya maamuzi.
Tukizidisha makelele
tutawachanganya
wazee wetu, tutulie
kwanza.
2015-07-26
22:51
GMT+03:00
'jbifabusha' via
Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>:
Mtalika.
Una mapenzi
ya
kupitiliza kwa CCM.
kwani ni lazima UKAWA
kuweka mgombea?
Usituchoshe
na
ngonjera
zako.
WSent from
Samsung
Mobile
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Original message
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From: 'mpombe
mtalika' via
Wanabidii <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
Date:
To: ELISA
MUHINGO' via Wanabidii
<wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
Subject:
[wanabidii]
UKAWA
SUMU
HAIONJWI
HATA
SIKU,
UKIONJA UTAKUFA TU
Sasa ni karibia wiki ya tatu hivi
tangu
chama
tawala
kutangaza
mgombea wake
wa
Urais, Mh. John Pombe Magufuli.
Hapo nyuma
UKAWA walisikika wakitamba
kuwa wanamsubiri
kwa
umakini mkubwa
mgombea wa CCM, ili
wajipange
kumsambaratisha. Baada ya
uteuzi
wa mgombea wa
CCM,
UKAWA ni kama
wameingia kizunguzungu na
kigugumizi,
maana
mahesabu yao
yamegota vibaya.
Kinachoonejana
dhahiri ni kwamba uhai wa
UKAWA
unapewa
uhalali tu
na makosa ya
chama tawala.
Chama tawala
kinapo weka mambo
yao safi na kwa
umakini,
UKAWA
wanaishiwa
hoja
na uhalali wa kisiasa, kwa
vile wao
wenyewe
hawana unifying
ideology, apart from being reactionary!
Tunachoshudia hivi sasa katika
UKAWA,
kushindwa vibaya
kukubaliana juu ya
mgombea wao urais ni
kiekelezo tosha
kuwa
UKAWA ni utapeli
wa kisiasa kati ya
mambumbumbu wanao wania urais.
Hawajui nni awawakilishe na
hawajui huko wanaenda
kufanya
nini.Hii
ni
hatari kubwa!
Watu
wanaonadiwa na
mamluki
wa kibiashara inaelekea
watainunua UKAWA
wakati
wowote ule na ni
kwa nia moja tu, kukamata dili zote za
dola
ili
wanufaike
kiuchumi.
Lakini wananchi makini
wanaendekea
kugutuka.
Tunajua kuwa hata
wapinzani ni watanzania
na huko kuna
watu
makini
kitaifa.
Simpigii debe Dr
Skaa
lakini haingii akilini
Dr Slaa
kumtangaza
Lowassa kuwa
fisadi,
halafu kula
matapishi yake bila
maelezo na
kumkaribisha
fisadi huyo
huyo kukipigia debe chama
chao.
Maendeleo ya Tanzania ni kuwa na upinzani
makini utakao
sahihisha kama sio
kupiku chama tawala.Kwa ujinga huu wa
kukumbatia ufisadi
ulio
temwa na chama
tawala, UKAWA
unawakaribisha kina Rosta na
Karamaga and
co.
iliwagawane rasilmali
za nchi hii.
Mungu
bariki, mpaka hivi sasa ndani ya
UKAWA ni mtafaruku wa
kukaribia
kusambaratika kwani
hawajui
wanaenda Ikulu
kufanya nini na
kwa
madhumuni gani
kwa
mwananchi wa kawaida.
Sumu haionjwi
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