Re: [wanabidii] Vyombo vya habari Tanzania vyashindwa kukabili propaganda za Malawi na Rwanda

Mzee Muganda Hapa ndipo tunapotofautiana. Sisi tunasema JK anachokifaanya kwa sasa katika jambo hili yuko sahihi, lakini wenzetu wa CDM wanalichukulia kinuume kwa mtizamo wa kisiasa. Ukwelii ambao naona hata wewe hutaki kuukubali ni kwamba Wanyaarwanda wako strategic katika kuchukua maeneo haya ya afrika mashariki. Nitakupa mfano hapa halisi. Wakati fulani nikiwa Kigoma kijiji kimoja chenye mchanganyiko wa Waha na Watusi. Mtoto wa kiha aloshika nafasi ya kwanza katika darasa fuulani aalisabaisha kifanyika kwa kikao cha Watusi karibu wote katika kijiji hiki na swali la.muhimu likawa ni kwa nini mtoto wa Kiha aliwashinda watusi? Hizi akili alizitoa wapi? Katika kijiji hiki kwa mwaka huo jambo hili lilileta shida. Mifano ya shida ya Wanyarwanda kuwa na mkakati wa kuwanyanyasa watanzania iko mingi tu. Ungepata nafasi ya kufanya nao kazi ungeona hilo. Tatizo ninalolioona kwa sasa ni usaliti wa wazi kwa maslahi yaa kisiasa huku wakidhani kuwa wakipewa kutawala nchi wao watakuwa salama hili halitawezekana kabisa. Ukweli ni kwamba wataiuza nchi yetu kwa bei ya kutupa kabisa. Ninalofahamu Mzee Mganda siku zote.vibaraka huwa hawakosekani lakini wale wanaotumia fursa adimu kuiangamiza nchi kweli hawatapata nafasi. Nchi yetu iko imara. Namfahamu Kicheere ana msimamo wake mzuri linapokuja.swala.la.utaifa. Watu wote wa Mkoa wa Mara wanajua hilo japokuwa huwa hawapandi migombani kila mwiisho wa mwaka lakini wanajua nini wanafanya. Tanzania inatuhitaji sana kuisaidia kwa wakati huu. Kila mtu.anahitajika kutumia nfasi aliyo nayo kuhakikishha kuwa hakuna adui anaeleta vitisho kwa watoto na wajukuu na vitukuu na vilembwe watakaokuwepo katika nchi hii "irrespective" chama gani kitaongoza nchi yetu. Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android

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From: Emmanuel Muganda <emuganda@gmail.com>;
To: <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>;
Subject: Re: [wanabidii] Vyombo vya habari Tanzania vyashindwa kukabili propaganda za Malawi na Rwanda
Sent: Sat, Aug 24, 2013 10:31:55 PM

Ezekiel,' Hivi busara za JKN alizikwa nazo? Kwa nini hawa viongozi wa sasa hawajaribu angalau hata kidogo tu kufikiria hapa JKN angesemaje? Ni kweli hii nchi ni yetu sote. Lakini tusikubali kumpa nafasi kiongozi bila kuhoji kama walivyofanya Wajerumani wakati wa Hitler. Madhara aliyoyaleta Hitler Ujerumani yaliwaumiza raia wote. Tusiruhusu rais wetu, kwa kujitafutia umaarufu kama wa Sadat, usio na tija kwa taifa letu, atupeleke huko. Nimemwelewa kabisa Kicheere. em 2013/8/24 ezekiel kunyaranyara <ekunyaranyara@yahoo.co.uk> Nyaronyo Huu ndio ukweli ambao wengi na wanafiki hawawezi kuusema. Heri yako umeusema. Sasa mimi nataka nikuulize jambo moja ama mawili hivi. Wewe hioni kwamba hata baba hamsemeshani huyo adui akimshambulia na akimzidi nguvu ayakushambilia na wewe?. Tatizo wengi mnadhani kuwa uadui wa wanyarwanda ni kwa JK tu kumbe wao ni kutaka wawatawale na wachukue mali zenu. Pili wanahabari wengi ni wanaCDM kwao jambo zuri haliwezi kutoka uupande wa pili. Kwao hakuna jambo linaweza kusemwa na mtu likakubaliwa hadi litamkwe na wateule wao. Lakini jambo la msingi ni kwamba nchi hii ni yetu wote. Ikishambuliwa ni pamoja na nyie wenye nafasi ya kuisemea vizuri lakini mmeamua kuisema vibaya kwa saababu zenu za kisiasa tu. Nyaronyo iko siku kama ni kulia ruyalia wotee au kama ni kucheka tutacheka wote, llabda tu uwe na uraia wa nchi mbili kaka kwamba mambo yakiharribika huku utakimbilia kwingine. Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android From: nyaronyo kicheere <kicheere@yahoo.com>; To: wanabidii@googlegroups.com <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>; Subject: Re: [wanabidii] Vyombo vya habari Tanzania vyashindwa kukabili propaganda za Malawi na Rwanda Sent: Sat, Aug 24, 2013 7:56:36 PM bandugu, nimeshangaa sana ninayoyasoma mtandaoni na hasa baada ya kumsoma mgamba na wale wanaoonekana kumpinga. hivi kweli kama baba yako ni mturutumbi/mwanga/mchawi/mrogi anakulogea wanao wanakufa utamtetea katika shauri lake na majirani zenu? mimi naweza kumtetea kama atapigwa lakini sidhani kama nitamtetea katika mzozo wa maneno kwa sababu mimi na yeye hatusemi! tutasemaje mimi na baba yango ambaye kila mke wangu akijifungua anakula wanangu na wanga/waturutumbi/wachawi,warogi wenzake? yaani baba yangu anatarajia mimi niwe mzalendo kutetea mashamba ya ukoo ambayo amezuia mimi na wanangu tusiyalime? yaani baba yangu anatarajia mimi niwe mzalendo kupambana na majirani zetu wanaotaka kumnyanganya shamba wakati yeye baba anawatumia vibarua wake kuchoma shamba langu la mtama uliokauka unasubiri kuvunwa? baba anayeniombea kifo, njaa na umaskini nimpendeje kiasi cha kujitoa maisha yangu kumwokoa? nasema hivi mimi nitaionaje nchi hii kama yetu wote wakati napigwa mabomu na pale ninapolalamika naambiwa nimijilipua mwenyewe? mnaotaka wpote tuwe wazalendo mjiulize kumetokea nini kati ya 1978 na 2013 kiasi kwamba wale wale waliokuwa wanachanga ngombe kusiadia nchi vitani, waliojitolea kupigana bure kama mgambo, waliofanya ushushu bure bila kuombwa leo hii hawataki kusaidia! mtoto mmoja wa shule darasa la tatu aliulizwa na mzungu mmoja mjini mrogoro, wapi mzinga? mtoto akamjibu twende nikuonyeshe halafu akampeleka kituo cha polisi - mzungu kuona kibao cha Police station kakimbia bystanders wakahoji kulikoni mtoto akasema alitaka nimweleze mzinga iko wapi nashangaa anakimbia; kukatolewa msaada mzungu akakamatwa - leo hii mtoto gani atafanya hivyo? watu watapenda nchi yao na viongozi wao kama watatendewa haki na kuona nchi ni yao kweli watu watapenda viongozi wao kama viongozi hao watachaguliwa kihalali na siyo kwa mtindo ule aliousema lipumba msikitini. tukubaliane nchi ni yetu wote, tuchaguane katika chaguzi huru na za haki, tusioneane, tusinyofoane kucha, tusikatane vidole, tusing'oane meno bila ganzi mwone jinsi tutakavyoipenda nchi yetu na kuitetea; otherwise kwanini nitetee kwa mandishi wanaonivizia kuning'oa meno na kuninyofoa kucha bila ganzi? KIDUMU CHAMA CHA MAPINDUZI. kicheere, tungi, kigamboni, tanganyika territory From: RICHARD MGAMBA <rmgamba2000@yahoo.com> To: "wanabidii@googlegroups.com" <wanabidii@googlegroups.com> Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 11:19 AM Subject: Re: [wanabidii] Vyombo vya habari Tanzania vyashindwa kukabili propaganda za Malawi na Rwanda Rwandan media propaganda can't be tamed by using the same means. Blaming Tanzanian media for not responding to reckless journalism in Rwanda is barbaric and a proof of how many of us are naïve about what journalism is all about.     Journalism isn't about engaging in reckless, mudsling and war-mongering politics. Rwandan media is well-known in hate propaganda, which was first observed in 1990s, few months before the genocide.    But, again in this case what was propagated by the Rwandan media needs to be studied thoroughly before embarking in 'countering' their stories. One of the stories that sparked the debate recently was the Wikileaks cable.    To my understanding, any information that is in the public domain can be used as source of news. The Wikileaks cable used by News of Rwanda was written by American top diplomat in Tanzania, not a Rwandese. Now this being the case, why should we, the media industry in Tanzania, embark on attacking the News of Rwanda while it has used an information that's in the public domain?    Last year, were we not happy in this country when we quoted Wikileaks cables about Dr. Hosea, Former Chief of Defence Forces George Waithara as well as President Kikwete's claims that he was bribed designed clothes by the owner of Kempinski? Now if we did it, why all the fuss, when our neighbours have followed the path that we showed them?    But above all the media from both sides have played the role of sensational and reckless journalism during the past few months when Tanzania-Rwanda relations has been shaken as President Kikwete put it. The difference is that we have been hit at our hearts, while we hit them somewhere where it doesn't pain them.     From: ezekiel kunyaranyara <ekunyaranyara@yahoo.co.uk> To: "wanabidii@googlegroups.com" <wanabidii@googlegroups.com> Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 11:07 AM Subject: Re: [wanabidii] Vyombo vya habari Tanzania vyashindwa kukabili propaganda za Malawi na Rwanda Bwamkuu You are right, but the Government can't do any thing if the people themselves are adamant as they are. Peoples minds are corrupted by pet internal politics. Some are acting agents of the enemy what do you expect from them.   K. E.M.S. From: Africa j bwamkuu <jbwamkuu@gmail.com> To: wanabidii@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, 24 August 2013, 0:56 Subject: Re: [wanabidii] Vyombo vya habari Tanzania vyashindwa kukabili propaganda za Malawi na Rwanda Interesting observation.  I noticed this awhile now, however, I think Government has to do more to assist / empower independent media to build a culture of patriotism when it comes to Tanzania against outsiders.  For now, I guess, media, sadly has a very limited awareness of their role in the  National building. They look at things from internal politics, we are too local even though we are increasingly pulled into Global platform.   Government needs to do more to drive news circles 2013/8/23 Joseph Ludovick <josephludovick@gmail.com> Abdallah unatafuta miguu kwa nyoka wewe 2013/8/23 Abdalah Hamis <hamisznz@gmail.com> Wanyarwanda wamekuwa wazuri katika siku za hivi karibuni kwenye anga la habari za kipropaganda na kuwazidi ndugu zetu Wakenya ambao kwa mda mrefu wamekuwa wakiongoza wa ukanda huu wa Afrika ya Mashariki. Kwanza ifahamike kuwa PROPAGANDA za aina yoyote ile ni msingi wa taifa linalokuwa nakujitambua. Tulipoingia kwenye vita vya Kagera kati yetu na Uganda, vyombo vya habari wakati huo vilikuwa vichache sana, tulikuwa na "Radio Tanzania" na magazeti machache ya serikali na chama tu. Lakini ufanisi wavyo katika propaganda ile ya kivita hakika vilitawala nyoyo za Watanzania nakutufanya sote tujione tupo katika jando la taifa huru. Leo hii tupo kwenye mgogoro wa kidiplomasia na nchi mbili yani Malawi na Rwanda, vyombo vyetu vya habari vimejiweka kando kabisa na masuala haya ukilinganisha na propaganda za wenzetu. Mfano, nchini Malawi gazeti la NyasaTimes na mtandao wa intaneti wa gazeti hilo limekuwa ni chombo muhimu kwa Wamalawi na dunia kwa ujumla kuuelezea kwa ufasaha mgogoro wa Ziwa Nyasa na kuhanikiza kuwa ziwa lote ni lao. Vivyo hivyo tulipoingia kwenye mgogoro wa kidiplomasia na nchi ya Rwanda vyombo vyao vya habari kama gazeti lao maarufu la NewTimes Rwanda na mitandao maarufu ya intaneti kama www.umuvugizi.com nk vimekuwa vyombo muhimu vya propaganda kwa Rwanda dhidi ya Tanzania. Mfano wa kwanza ni agizo la Rais Jakaya Kikwete wa Tanzania la kuwaondoa wahamia HARAMU nchini, vyombo hivyo vya Rwanda vimegeuza kauli na kusema rais alitoa amri Wanyarwanda wote WAFUKUZWE jambo ambolo sio kweli. Pili ni taarifa za vyombo hivyo vya Rwanda kusema Mke wa Rais Mama Salma ni Mhutu. Taarifa hii imelistua taifa na kuilazimu serikali kujibu tena kwa utulivu wa hali ya juu. Binafsi nimesikitishwa sana kuona serikali inaamua kujibu taarifa hii ambayo kimsingi ilistahili kujibiwa kiplopaganda hivyohivyo na vyombo vyetu vya habari kwakuwa taarifa hii sio "ngeni" kabisa. Kwa wale wasiojua nikuwa asili ya habari hii ya "Uhutu" wa mke wa rais wa Tanzania ni siasa za majita za 2005. Mtandao wa kijasu wa Wikileaks uliitoa habari hii tangu 2005 wakati wa harakati za uchaguzi wa Urais nchini Tanzania, ni Wanachama wa Chama cha Mapinduzi ndio waliopeleka habari hii huko Wikileaks kupitia kambi zao za Uraia hasa kambi iliyokuwa ikiongozwa na Mwandosya. Sasa vyombo vetu kwakuwa vimezoea propaganda za ndani yani za CHADEMA na CCM hivyo viliona kama habari ile ni mpya na yakustua sana havikujua hata cha kujibu. Unaweza kujiuliza sana, hivi uimara wa vyombo vyetu katika anga za kimataifa upo wapi? Je, Taifa leo likiingia vitani ipi nafasi ya vyombo vyetu katika anga za kimataifa? 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