Tom,
Rose is right. It has been studied and documented that rape is not
motivated by how a woman dresses. If dressing was the factor, there
would be no rape in Moslem countries where women dress from head to
toes in clothes that don't reveal their body shapes. No one would be
raping children or old ladies.
Rape is a crime of control. The rapist has some insecurities and
mental issues and rape is a way of asserting his manhood.
Rape is also used as a form of humiliation in war situations. Do you
think a soldier raping a woman in a war situation is doing it because
of the woman's dress? Not really. It's to humiliate her.
Slave masters used to rape slave women. Do you think it was because of
the dresses? I think not. It was to humiliate and subjugate the slave
woman and to assert his authority. Even slave men used to rape the
slave women. It was their only way of asserting that they were still
men.
Courage,
Oduor Maurice
On 7/20/12,
nelsonoreje@gmail.com <
nelsonoreje@gmail.com> wrote:
> Rose, those are selected cases. Rape, I think, is strongly promoted by how
> the lady dresses. And by the way, u can only speak for men when you know ur
> a lesbian which the animus part overriding
> Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone provided by Airtel Kenya
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ROSE KAGWIRIA <
ikirimakagwiria10@yahoo.com>
> Sender:
progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com> Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2012 12:49:29
> To:
>
progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com<
progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com>
> Reply-To:
progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [PK] Mini Skirts in Schools
>
> Lister
> I will disagree with you on the bases of women being taken as property of
> men. Alow only muslims to practice this but not Christians. The school girls
> should have a guideline on the dressing code as it is in any
> other institution who wear uniforms. However, let this not be sex oriented
> that a woman should be guided on how to dress by men. Women are not men's
> property. They can dress the way they want as long as they are not in
> official environment like in school or offices. Rape is never related to
> miniskirts otherwise men would not be raping 5month old baby, over 80yr old
> woman, cripple and disabled women, other men, and even their own daughters.
> Does it mean all these people are raped because they were in miniskirts? Men
> can rape even a nun or muslim ladies despite their more than 80% body
> cover.
> If actually the way women dress affect men, then we could be having rape
> cases reported in Turkana every hour.
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Joseph Lister Nyaringo <
diplomat1499@yahoo.com>
> To: "
progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com"
> <
progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com>
> Cc: "
progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com"
> <
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> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 2:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [PK] Mini Skirts in Schools
>
>
> I think modernity should not drive us down the cliff to spill common
> decency. I will be the most wrecked parent to hear that my daughter has
> been raped on her way home from School as a result of an enticing miniskirt
> to a predator. Folks, let us not give ammunition to rapists. My wish is
> that, women should dress comfortably & not in away which evokes a seductive
> eye from members of the opposite sex. Remember, we are a developing country
> where criminals rape & the victims rarely get justice. Kenya is not in the
> West where a distress call is answered in 3 minutes by the police & where
> most school going kids have cell phones & would call police in case they
> suspect anything at home or the street. Secondly, the Ministry of education
> should give a free hand to institutions to put up their own standards for
> discipline. That is why I vehemently disagree with Mutula. The teachers
> trying to enforce decency in dressing by our girls are right. My thoughts.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 20, 2012, at 5:44 AM, ANTONY MBAYAKI <
antombeks@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Rose
>>It all depends on the intent. For Ministers who sample Koinange, and sugar
>> dad professionally, they will not mind in fact they will policy it. I said
>> here one time I fear that Mutula will transfer fraudulent demons to our
>> children. jijazie.
>>Antonio wa mfalme mu guud.
>>voice from desert of Tekoa.
>>
>>
>>
>>On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 8:42 PM, ROSE KAGWIRIA
>> <
ikirimakagwiria10@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>Well, wearing miniskirt is not bad by itself but which environment you use
>> it and for what reason. I don't see why students don't see anything wrong
>> in dressing officially. Do we go to the offices wearing miniskirts? Do
>> teachers wear miniskirts when teaching? Do doctors and nurses wear
>> miniskirts when at work? Or you think they dont like them?These students
>> and the so called Mutula or Mitula or whatever he is called should know
>> uniform is official dressing code otherwise next time they will say there
>> is no need of uniforms and he will say yeeees. They are not in a party or
>> shambas. They can wear them at home if they want to impress their fathers
>> and brothers. I watched the news and all of them were wearing skirts not
>> below the knee. Do they want to show their underpants and for what reason
>> and who are they trying to impress? Are they doing like Warsama's rhino?
>> Already their current uniform is exposing their thighs which is ok if
>> thats what they want
> to show.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>________________________________
>>> From: Kuria-Mwangi <
kjmwangi@gmail.com>
>>>To:
progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com>>>Cc: KOL <
kenyaonline@yahoogroups.com>
>>>Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 4:40 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [PK] Mini Skirts in Schools
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Muita and Tom:
>>>Sioni umbaya wa hii taya. Miguu mzuri kabisa:
>>>
>>>
>>>Local News
>>>Let schoolgirls wear miniskirts – Mutula
> NAIROBI, Kenya, Jul 19 – Education Minister Mutula Kilonzo has come
> out in defence of demands by schoolgirls that they be allowed to wear
> miniskirts. He said that the reaction was a manifestation that the
> education sector was still being governed by outdated rules and
> regulations. "I am in total agreement with them (students). Why ... 11
> Responses
>>>
>>>
>>>On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 7:18 AM, <
tomoreje@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>Wangoko and others who dine with devils (not Mumia)
>>>>
>>>>Your wish is granted.
>>>>
>>>>Cheers.
>>>>________________________________
>>>>
>>>>From: mark kirario <
mkirario.088@gmail.com>
>>>>Sender:
progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com>>>>Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 14:14:52 +0300
>>>>To:
>>>>
progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com<
progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com>;
>>>> KOL<
kenyaonline@yahoogroups.com>
>>>>ReplyTo:
progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com>>>>Subject: [PK] Mini Skirts in Schools
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Now what the hell is this.Before he made the remarks, did he thought of
>>>> male teachers in those gal schools?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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