Re: [wanabidii] Re: [YP_Ke] + Atheist QUOTE Of The Day +

Sorry friends:
There is nothing like "free thinking" per say, which is not subjected to some norms of some sort. Free thinking presumes a one hundred percent freedom, which is not true. Should we agree with this, you will also agree with me that as long as you live and you are alive, no one who can proclaim to be wholly an atheist! Atheist is not a permanent phenomena but a temporal one. Because the sum total of all our life encounters or rather, existence; re-affirms directly or indirectly the adherence to a deity of some sort, that there is God; thus, there is no one who is absolutely a pagan, needless to say, an atheist.

 

On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 10:50 AM, SOLOMON NJERU <solonjeru@yahoo.com> wrotuse:

Hi. The earth remains the centre of the universe, this is the only life bearing solar body(in this solar system because out there are other milliard systems which are not solar). Though you want to believe what the scientist say is the true, but know they are still muffled by new discovered. Some year not long ago they had told us the earth was a table, only for Christopher Columbus to bump on West Indies beyond the horizon. To exist in this world there is no application that is required. We just emerge and exist and that is why when dying there no application required and if you induce(com mite suicide) is criminal naturally. The concept of God and religion are two different thing which are far apart as sky above and earth beneath and are completely unrelated. If someone who had died in 19 century was to resurrect to day,he/she would think this is not the earth he was. He/she only knew donkey cart. Automobile, Aircraft and Rockets these nowhere in their dreams. What about television and radio, could they have imagined wherever you are there are images and voices. Your image and sound remain in the air for ever what is require is an instrument to tape them. Even the voices of people who died are still with us, that why video for Jomo Kenyatta we normally see them even today. But you will say they were taped but I will tell you the material for taping never came from sky but on earth. So I would like to tell you your voices and your images since you were born by your mother are somewhere recorded on a rock or material. So what does it mean,for a common human being like you only communicate and exist in 3 dimension- Matter, Light and Space. In the turn of the 20 century human being discovered there is 4 th dimension to communicate with- Science:- TV, mobile phone, radio, automobile,aircraft, rocket. It could have been difficult to explain this to our forefather but now you know because some one discovered. We are now discovering their is 5th, 6th and 7th dimension. Of course you need to be sat down an be proven that they exist. 5th dimension is where satan and evil spirit resides and if you die without believing in GOD, in a moment of twinkling of an eye you land here, THIS IS THE AREA OF TORRMENT.This is where there is wailing and gnatshing of teeth day and night. 6th Dimension is where if you believed in God and you did according to HIS WILL you go here WHEN YOU DIE and IS CALLED PARADISE, you enjoy through out. 7th is where GOD THE CREATER OF ALL RESIDES. You require to be educated on this. From baby class to university on takes more than 18years to learn even this is also rocket science you need to be patience and agree to be told, otherwise if you stick your nose up as KNOW-IT-ALL you will remain with foolishness --- On Tue, 7/3/12, The Atheist <hmumia@gmail.com> wrote: From: The Atheist <hmumia@gmail.com> Subject: [YP_Ke] + Atheist QUOTE Of The Day + To: giving-it-straight@googlegroups.com, "youths_4r_christ" <youths_4r_christ@googlegroups.com>, "young proffessionals" <youngprofessionals_ke@googlegroups.com>, "progressive-kenyans" <progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com>, "wanakenya" <wanakenya@googlegroups.com>, "Vugu Vugu" <vuguvugumashinani@yahoogroups.com>, "NVK MAGEUZI" <NVK-Mageuzi@yahoogroups.com>, "Harrison Mumia N" <hmumia@gmail.com>, "Kiswahili" <kiswahili@yahoogroups.com>, "wanabidii" <wanabidii@googlegroups.com> Date: Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 8:23 AM I think [religious] belief lost whatever rationality it once possessed when it was discovered that the earth is not the center of the universe. So long as it was thought that the sun and the planets and the stars revolved about the earth, it was natural to suppose that the universe had a purpose connected with the earth, and, since man was what man most admired on the earth, this purpose was supposed to be embodied in man. But astronomy and geology have changed all this. The earth is a minor planet of a minor star which is one of many millions of stars in a galaxy which is one of many millions of galaxies. Even within the life of our own planet man is only a brief interlude. Non-human life existed for countless ages before man evolved. Man, even if he does not commit scientific suicide, will perish ultimately through failure of water or air or warmth. It is difficult to believe that Omnipotence needed so vast a setting for so small and transitory a result.  Bertrand Russell. 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