Saturday 19 October 2013

[wanabidii] Re: [africanworldforum] Re: Dear Kool Breeze>>RE: AFRICA AND DICTATORSHIP!

Here is a semi-intellectual debate about forming a US-style United States of Africa. That ship already sailed in 1963. Right now Africa is just too full of egotistical politicians for such a thing to happen. Every leader wants to be a big fish even if in a small pond.

Courage

On 2013-10-19, at 10:44 PM, Yaya Fanusie <futatoro@gmail.com> wrote:

My Dear Granite Brain Collins: Will be difficult for you to understand this.
Over the last three years the German Chancelor and others said for Europe to survive they need to have a UNITED STATES OF EUROPE.
Since they are white and not stupid, they can tell when they are going to face serious difficulties in the near future. But primitive swines like you is incapable of seeing the oncoming danger. Germans think they can not survive in the near future and Jonathan and Zuma think their countries will survive?
OOPs. I am wasting my time I forgot  I am writing to  an Iron Stone-Granite Rock. Now I realize I am delusional.
Yaya Fanusie  






On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 10:27 PM, Collins Ezebuihe <collyezebuihe@hotmail.com> wrote:
Vin Kool Breeze,
 
You can forget that US-Africa; it is not happening, as long as it is in the hands of human beings.
 
Do you know what it is for a nation to give up its sovereignty? Southern Sudan, for instance, just gained sovereignty not long ago, and do you think the nationals of that nation will give it up --just so they can join to form a mega African nation and likely re-live their past painful experience? No, of course.
 
Do you even think that Igbos, Yorubas, all Ghanaians, etc will fathom this US-Africa crap and bunk? Do you even think Kenya --a major African nation will be the same again, after all these bombings from radical muslims, and agree to form an African single nation where these bombings are likely to get worse? Even Arab nations will not even think of being one nation, not to think of African nations were issues are much complex, plus radical islam that has forever changed the politics of Africa.
 
That's not all. United States of America will not even fathom any idea of one nation with Mexico, nor will Canada even agree to join USA and Mexico to form one north America. Just about the only place a mega nation is possible is Latin America --from Mexico to Argentina, but without "Portuguese" Brazil. That's because these Latin American nations are predominantly cathorlics and speak the same Spanish. But it is also going to happen their as long as politicians crave power.
 
But permit me to ask you a personal question. Assuming you are the president of Nigeria and you are asked to step down for  someone like Kenyatta of Kenya, or Mugabe, or that mad man of Ethiopia (I don't remember his name now), Al Bashir (or whatever he's called), or even Mrs Sirleaf of Liberia, etc, will you agree? And even if you agree, do you think Nigerians will go along?
 
However, unity doesn't always mean all of us sharing one nation. African unity can be achieved through highway linkage of African nations to get Africans interacting with each other inside Africa --not outside like mainly in the real USA and Europe. Currently, it is sad that it is mainly only Igbos that do that mixing with other ethnicities throughout Africa, and we are just about 5% of the population of Africa! Where are the rest of Africans? That is then why an entity like the African Union --if it wants to be relevant-- should pick up this highway project and fund it through direct bond sales to Africans; so Africans can mix more frequently.
 
Additionally, a duty-free Africa for local African goods and services will also be winning proposition, and that is where ECOWAS and co come in.
 
Etc, etc.
 
 Having said all of the above, I must re-state that the proponents of the pipe dream called US Africa should start comparing Africa to Europe --and not the United States of America. That's because Europe is the only continent that is similar to Africa, because both have a multiplicity of dominant ethnic groups. The US doesn't now. But Europe is operating European Union (EU), and not a single European Republic. Even so, the United Kingdom (very shaky now!) is still hanging on to its currency and doesn't want to ditch it in favor of the Euro.
 
Cheers,
 
Collins.
 


Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2013 18:57:07 -0400
Subject: RE: AFRICA AND DICTATORSHIP!
From: Vincentotuonye@msn.com
To: collyezebuihe@hotmail.com; okonkwonetworks@googlegroups.com; africanworldforum@googlegroups.com
CC: jonathanawasom@yahoo.com

Collins:

I don't have problem if they do. There are times the change we desire may come from outside not inside. I personally don't have any problem with US of Africa but I don't believe it can be achieved in 2017. Besides, it's not something that will be achieved through the internet. Though the internet can help create the awareness.

Vin Kool Breeze Otuonye


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-------- Original message --------
From: Collins Ezebuihe <collyezebuihe@hotmail.com>
Date: 10/19/2013 6:41 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: Vince Otuonye <vincentotuonye@msn.com>,okonkwonetworks@googlegroups.com,africanworldforum@googlegroups.com
Cc: Jonathan Awasom <jonathanawasom@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: AFRICA AND DICTATORSHIP!


Yet some citizens of Cameroon think Africa-wide but fail to start acting from their immediate vicinity!
If one dictator like Biya or good old Mugabe captures power in US-Africa, Africa will be in worse shape.
 

Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2013 18:19:47 -0400
Subject: RE: AFRICA AND DICTATORSHIP!
From: Vincentotuonye@msn.com
To: collyezebuihe@hotmail.com; okonkwonetworks@googlegroups.com; africanworldforum@googlegroups.com
CC: jonathanawasom@yahoo.com

Has been in power since 1982 and nothing to show for it. Cameroon remains one of the most impoverished country in Africa.

Vin Otuonye

From my Android phone on T-Mobile. The first nationwide 4G network.



-------- Original message --------
From: Collins Ezebuihe <collyezebuihe@hotmail.com>
Date: 10/19/2013 5:35 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: okonkwonetworks@googlegroups.com,africanworldforum@googlegroups.com
Cc: Jonathan Awasom <jonathanawasom@yahoo.com>
Subject: AFRICA AND DICTATORSHIP!


 

Cameroon's Ruling Party Wins Parliamentary Elections



FILE - Cameroon's President Paul Biya departing meeting at Elysee Palace, Paris, Jan. 30, 2013


Cameroon's ruling party has won a sweeping victory in parliamentary elections, a move that extends President Paul Biya's three decade hold on power.
The Supreme Court Thursday published official results from the September 30 polling, with results showing the Cameroon Peoples Democratic Movement won 148 of the 180 seats in the national assembly.
The country's main opposition party, the Social Democratic Front, won 18 seats.
Biya has ruled the oil-producing central African nation since 1982. He assumed the presidency when his predecessor, Ahmadou Ahidjo, resigned.
The 80-year-old president is eligible to run for re-election when his current term ends in 2018.
Some information for this report was provided by AFP and Reuters.
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