Sunday 9 June 2013

[wanabidii] Re: We must not kill our institutions simply because Raila lost

Judy,

Shouldn't you therefore be upset with tha Jubilee government for not concentrating on their work instead of  spending their energy to embarrass Raila?

How are they serving Kenyans if all their efforts are focused on embarrassing Raila?

Courage


On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 10:16 PM, Judy Miriga <jbatec@yahoo.com> wrote:


Maurice,
 
 
Right now I am not talking about Raila.  I dont know why you think
everything is all about Raila.
 
 
Dont you know children are dying of hunger and majority of women cant make ends meet to keep families a float or you are in Canada and you assume everything is fine with the rural folks.
 
 
The Devolution is not functioning yet and the Government system
is not working yet.  It will take me and you to encourage people to
engage positively to make things work. 
 
 
One thing you must accept is that Raila during his time in the leadership made his mistakes which he could have avoided.  Do we want to still doing the kwasa kwasa and let another 5 years
go past doing useless politiking???
 
 
Tell me your way how you want us to engage so things can move
but please let us not talk about Raila atleast for us to get some
bearing how we can do things differently to get traction for development agendas and get Kenyans out of poverty and eliminate high cost of food.......
 
 
I want you to engage on this very maturely and positively chatting
about putting a functioning institution and not talking about an
individual............if you will do that we shall have something to communicate and proceed but if you do something different I will stay out of exchange and avoid anything which is not adding value to our engagement.
 
 
 
Judy Miriga
Diaspora Spokesperson
Executive Director
Confederation Council Foundation for Africa Inc.,
USA
http://socioeconomicforum50.blogspot.com
 


--- On Sun, 6/9/13, Maurice Oduor <mauricejoduor@gmail.com> wrote:
 
 
From: Maurice Oduor <mauricejoduor@gmail.com>
Subject: [wanabidii] Re: We must not kill our institutions simply because Raila lost
To: wanakenya@googlegroups.com
Cc: wanabidii@googlegroups.com, "Uchunguzionline" <uchunguzionline@yahoogroups.com>, "Change Mombasa" <changemombasa2012@yahoogroups.com>, "youngprofessionals_ke@googlegroups.com" <youngprofessionals_ke@googlegroups.com>, "africa yahoogroups" <africa-oped@yahoogroups.com>, "the last word to kenya" <thelastwordtokenya@yahoogroups.com>, "ProgressiveMinds" <ProgressiveMinds@yahoogroups.com>, "NVK-Mageuzi@yahoogroups.com" <NVK-Mageuzi@yahoogroups.com>, "Okiya Omtatah Okoiti" <omtatah@yahoo.com>
Date: Sunday, June 9, 2013, 9:59 PM

Judy,
Which side shows are these? You mean how akina Kimemia are trying to embarrass Raila? Is that what you mean are side-shows?
Courage

On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 9:53 PM, Judy Miriga <jbatec@yahoo.com> wrote:


Maurice,
In simple terms........for the New constitution to take effect towards benefiting the people, Kenyans must support the Government of the Day (Jubilee Government) collectively
being responsible to speed up progressive development
agenda where all must have an opportunity to collectively
benefit.
To engage in side-shows is a waste of time when Kenya
is already bleeding from excessive political corruption and impunity.
Things must take shape for Government to effect working
system and this can only take place when all people agree
to cooperate and work in a bi-partisan way putting party
matters aside for now................
Judy Miriga
Diaspora Spokesperson
Executive Director
Confederation Council Foundation for Africa Inc.,
USA
http://socioeconomicforum50.blogspot.com


--- On Sun, 6/9/13, Maurice Oduor <mauricejoduor@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Maurice Oduor <mauricejoduor@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: We must not kill our institutions simply because Raila lost
To: wanakenya@googlegroups.com
Cc: wanabidii@googlegroups.com, "Uchunguzionline" <uchunguzionline@yahoogroups.com>, "Change Mombasa" <changemombasa2012@yahoogroups.com>, "youngprofessionals_ke@googlegroups.com" <youngprofessionals_ke@googlegroups.com>, "africa yahoogroups" <africa-oped@yahoogroups.com>, "the last word to kenya" <thelastwordtokenya@yahoogroups.com>, "ProgressiveMinds" <ProgressiveMinds@yahoogroups.com>, "NVK-Mageuzi@yahoogroups.com" <NVK-Mageuzi@yahoogroups.com>, "Okiya Omtatah Okoiti" <omtatah@yahoo.com>
Date: Sunday, June 9, 2013, 8:49 PM

I'm sorry Judy but I don't understand a single thing you're saying here. Please simplify for me.
Courage

On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Judy Miriga <jbatec@yahoo.com> wrote:
Good People,

You know what ! if we slake, the New Constitutional implementation for Kenya will catch cold and it will be hard to make sense of its implementation.

We do not want a sick Government. If the Government catches the cold, equally the people will catch the cold and since the Government is for the people and of the people, it is important that the Government is facilitated and made to function before anything else is considered.

This kwasa kwasa, madiaba, sukus and hulabaloo are delaying tactics meant to short-change and deny people of Kenya their fundamental constitutional rights to own, engage, participate and enjoy the Government's service deliverables.........

I take this opportunity to urge President Uhuru with his VP Ruto to go more to the people, consult and gain peoples confidence as he deliver services according to his campaign promised. They must not allow themselves to get embroiled or entangled with engineered dramas that are intended to fool Kenyans.......These dramas are conspiracies that will go on endlessly.

It is sad that, Kibaki and Raila played us the game while their families and agents grew fatter and fatter enjoying taxpayer money and the people got pushed to the extreme poverty ..... eating remnants from under their tables for 5 years. They actually did not except "Kazi kwa Vijana" Funds disappeared to undisclosed destination with Reports of the same unavailable to-date.

We do not expect some more of this drama from Uhuru and Ruto's Administration ......... and Kenyans must not allow to be dragged to such conspiracies meant to fool them while their wealth and resources are stolen leaving them empty.

Let Uhuru and Ruto focus on security with governance service to the people and leave legal matters to be run by their respective facilitating executive and legal institutions that are mandated to channel and follow-up with such claims.
Judy Miriga
Diaspora Spokesperson
Executive Director
Confederation Council Foundation for Africa Inc.,
USA
http://socioeconomicforum50.blogspot.com


--- On Sun, 6/9/13, Okiya Omtatah Okoiti <omtatah@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Okiya Omtatah Okoiti <omtatah@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: We must not kill our institutions simply because Raila lost
To: "wanakenya@googlegroups.com" <wanakenya@googlegroups.com>, "youngprofessionals_ke@googlegroups.com" <youngprofessionals_ke@googlegroups.com>, "africa yahoogroups" <africa-oped@yahoogroups.com>, "the last word to kenya" <thelastwordtokenya@yahoogroups.com>, "ProgressiveMinds" <ProgressiveMinds@yahoogroups.com>, "NVK-Mageuzi@yahoogroups.com" <NVK-Mageuzi@yahoogroups.com>, "africa- oped" <africa-oped@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sunday, June 9, 2013, 12:54 AM

Ndugu Maina Ndiritu,

Thanks for this post which I have read with a lot of interest.

The so called mobilisation was so effective that close to 1.5 million voters only voted for the winning presidential candidate and not for the others (County Reps, Women Rep, Member of National Assembly, Senator, and Governor.) Now, 1.5 m - 800k = 700k.

Further, the numbers were such that up until now, so many months later, the IEBC is unable to rationalise and release the final results. Where did the ballots meant for the other five elections go to, when the law required all the six ballots be given to a voter at the same time? Not even with the Supreme Court's mutilation of Kenya's Constitution by purporting to redefine the meaning of votes cast gave the riggers the saving grace they sought.

The victims who were wronged have moved on as they were asked to do; but the villains who stole the elections are stuck in the muck and can't move on.

Pole sana.

Omtatah
From: maina ndiritu <litshooz@gmail.com>
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Sent: Sunday, June 9, 2013 7:29 AM
Subject: We must not kill our institutions simply because Raila lost

It was the Indian Prime Minister Rajiv Gandhi who famously remarked
that when a big tree falls, the earth must shake a little.

The March 4 presidential election was in effect a two-horse race
between two formidable politicians with a history of family rivalry
and boasting very strong constituencies.

As we now know, Uhuru Kenyatta triumphed over Raila Odinga. But, as
one would expect, the fall of a giant of Kenyan politics such as Mr
Odinga has not gone down well among many of his most ardent
supporters, including vocal sections of the civil society.

This is to be expected. Across the world, closely contested elections
are always followed by a period of recriminations and some bitterness.

The difference between more advanced democracies and Kenya, though, is
that society does not seek to destroy its institutions because of an
election outcome that some do not like.

Any rational observer will understand that it was not the Independent
Electoral and Boundaries Commission (IEBC) or the Supreme Court which
decided the March 4 election.

It was a solid plurality of the 12.3 million voters who turned out –
more than 800,000 – who decided that Mr Kenyatta would be the nation's
fourth president.

All the observer reports are now in. In all the analyses about the
election, it should never be forgotten that this was an exercise which
attracted an unprecedented level of scrutiny being the first poll
after the 2007/8 crisis.

In total, there were a record 21,554 accredited domestic observers and
1,834 international observers (in addition to 6,327 local and
international journalists).

To add to this, donors sponsored the Elections Observation Group
(Elog), a coalition of smaller Kenyan organisations, with more than
7,000 observers in all 290 constituencies, which ran a parallel
tallying process.

All the observer missions have delivered the verdict that the election
was free, fair and credible.

None of these reports has been enough to satisfy the groups especially
in civil society, which want nothing short of the disbandment of the
IEBC and who seek to destroy the Supreme Court's reputation because
voters did not elect their favoured candidate.

Yet if one does not believe the multiple observer mission reports,
they should at least look at the transparent narrative told by the
results of the other contests held on March 4.

The Jubilee coalition defeated the Cord alliance in the races for
Senator, in the contests for Governor, in the battle for Parliament
and in the Women's Representative elections.

The picture was quite different in 2007. At that time, one could see
merit in Mr Odinga's claim in disputing the presidential election
results. In that election, Mr Odinga's Orange Democratic Movement
(ODM) won a comfortable majority in the race for Parliament.

This year, the race for Speaker of the Senate and Parliament was
hardly a contest. Jubilee easily won the seat in both houses.

When any objective observer sits down to write the story of the 2013
Kenyan election, the verdict will ultimately be that the Jubilee
coalition simply outwitted their rivals and registered their
supporters in superior numbers.

They won the election long before any votes had been cast simply by
borrowing from Barack Obama's playbook and understanding the power of
mobilisation.

Mr Odinga is understandably not best pleased with the result. But his
claim in a recent interview that it was not Cord's job to get their
supporters to register and that task was the IEBC's duty demonstrates
his failure to understand how to win a modern election.

It starts with mobilisation and encouraging turnout, an issue
illustrated most starkly by the contest between Mr Obama and Mitt
Romney in the US.

Were there some irregularities in the conduct of the election? Of
course there were. No exercise at such a scale could have been devoid
of some hiccups.

And these were spread across the country.

It is noteworthy that a court heard testimony on oath this past week
that dead voters were among those who took part in the election in
Kasipul Kabondo where Mr Odinga was the strongest candidate.

However, the Supreme Court's main finding was that there was no
evidence of some grand conspiracy to favour one candidate or the other
at the IEBC.

The European Union found that any discrepancies between the
presidential vote and the contest for other seats amounted to less
than 1 per cent of the total votes.

In effect, the constant complaints about the election outcome reflect
disappointment with the result. This is a valid position in a
democracy.

But it would be sheer folly if simply because of the fall of the big
tree that is Mr Odinga institutions such as the IEBC and the Supreme
Court are forced to fall with him.

Jacqueline Kandagor is a social and cultural commentator kandagor@gmail.com

 

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