But what kind of an office is this that requires 700 million? How big is the building and how many offices or employees will he have. What role will Kibaki's office be playing in the government? Or is this an office for private business?
haki ya mungu Kenyans we're like sheep. This is just daylight robbery but we won't hear much of it because kikuyus will not talk much about it and the few non-Kikuyus who complain about it will be told to Move On.
I weep for the Kenyan taxpayer sometimes.
Courage
On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 9:57 AM, Joseph Lister Nyaringo <diplomat1499@yahoo.com> wrote:
Brother Osiemo you are right. Kshs. 700 Million is a lot of money for an ex- President, when majority of the nation is in poverty. I saw a clip of how venomous snakes are killing people in former President Moi's Baringo area and questioned myself how Moi feels when he sees the level of suffering in his home turf after serving as President for more than two decades.To be honest, Mzee Kibaki has enough networks to mobilize funds for a good office. If he cared about starting a foundation which will safeguard his legacy, he needs to bring in his Muthaiga club guys to fund-raise for him. The guys are stinking rich. Baminto, batonyarire.Joseph Lister Nyaringo - North Americawww.listernyaringo.org In prosperity our friends knows us; in adversity we know our friends. John Churton Collins
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Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 9:37 AM
Subject: Sh700 million for Kibaki’s new office
Nyinyi ni bure sana.Mungekuwa kibaki,mpigs wangekupatia ngapi ndio msipige mdomo!The Ksh.700m is a carrot and stick for mpigs to bargain with the government so as to have things go their way.@Rose,when we voted,we had my party & my community/clan factors.Now ,the reality is we cheated ourselves as the honourables have ganged up as mpigs to do what they wanted their reduced workload and quality notwthstanding .Who said that Kibaki is a professional Economics from the school of Rondoni!Evans MACHERAFrom: geoffreyosiemo <geoffreyosiemo@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 4:20 PM
Subject: (VVM Forum) Re: [PK] Sh700 million for Kibaki’s new officeRose,
The world's and particularly Kenya's problems can not be solved by Politicians,and/or Intellectuals, and/or religion or religious leaders,and/or economics and or militarily.
The problem as a country is that we want to move on but we do not know where we are going.
The answer lies beyond the five physical senses. How do we get there, that is the question?
Can you imagine spending 700 million for an Office for Kibaki and the suffering children of Mbeere are left to die. God have mercy.
Thanks.
GOO.
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> We can understand. We are reversing to 70s and 6os when the poor remained poor and the rich remained rich. Its understandable, history has to repeat itself. Now the poor kenyans have to pay taxes for everything to enable people fulfil what they promised kenyans. I WILL COOK FOR YOU WITHIN 90 DAYS BUT YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL EXPENSES and the people said "AMEN" and voted heavily. So nobody should complain . You bought the knife to kill yourself. MPS are crying for high salaries yet they have very little workload unlike previous years. Does I have not heard governs say anything. This is why we need intellectuals in that parliament. People didnt see the logic behind academic papers and age but I hope they can now see. Senators are being called retirees by MPs but you can see the wisdom in them. Most of the senators are academically fit and professionals but are MPs having any respect for them? Same way they have no respect for kenyans. Whichever the
> case, its too late to cry.
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> To: "mailto:progressive-kenyans%40googlegroups.com" <mailto:progressive-kenyans%40googlegroups.com>
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> Subject: Re: [PK] Sh700 million for Kibaki's new office
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> MADNESS
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> NEEDLESS
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> PURE LUNACY AND IMPUNITY
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> UNPRECEDENTED AND CORRUPTION IN ANOTHER FORM
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> BUT AS PER RECENT HISTORY, THEY WILL STILL GO AHEAD AND DO IT, PUBLIC OUTCRY AND FEELINGS BE DAMNED
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> Abdulmutalib Fadhil Albakry
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> On 16 Jun 2013, at 01:27, Maurice Oduor <mauricejoduor@...> wrote:
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> What role is Kibaki playing in this government that Taxpayers should cough up money in the tune of 700 million to buy a building for him? What size of staff will he need? To do what? This is madness. This is complete lunacy.
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> >Courage
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> >On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 4:22 PM, ROSE KAGWIRIA <ikirimakagwiria10@...> wrote:
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> >Sh700 million for Kibaki's new office
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> >>Retired President Kibaki in a group photo with fellow Starehe Boys' Centre board of trustees after holding their annual general meeting at the Windsor Golf and Country Hotel on 15th of June, 2013.
> >>By JOHN NGIRACHU jngirachu@...
> >>Posted Saturday, June 15 2013 at 20:04
> >>In Summary
> >> * "What they had attempted to do, through the Supplementary Estimates which were tabled on Tuesday, is to reallocate CDF money to other activities, which included building an office (for) Sh700 million for retired President Kibaki among others," an MP familiar with the matter said.
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> >>The Treasury has asked the National Assembly to approve the allocation of Sh700 million for the purchase of a building to house an office for retired President Mwai Kibaki, the Nation can reveal.
> >>The allocation is contained in the Supplementary Budget estimates tabled in the National Assembly last Tuesday and whose approval is on the Order Paper for this coming Tuesday.
> >>MPs are understood to have discovered the allocation as they questioned the failure by the Treasury to allocate the Sh5.4 billion Constituency Development Fund money for the remaining part of the 2012/2013 financial year.
> >>"What they had attempted to do, through the Supplementary Estimates which were tabled on Tuesday, is to reallocate CDF money to other activities, which included building an office (for) Sh700 million for retired President Kibaki among others," an MP familiar with the matter said.
> >>He did not wish to be named because of the nature of the allocation and the fact that the matter is yet to be explained by the Treasury Cabinet Secretary, who is scheduled to meet the Budget and Appropriations Committee on Tuesday morning.
> >>The allocation for the building is tucked under development expenditure for the Cabinet Office in the Supplementary Budget estimates books.
> >>The Parliamentary Budget Office also noted the allocation of Sh700 million to the Cabinet Office to buy a building as among the salient issues in its report on the Supplementary estimates.
> >>In the initial estimates for the 2012/2013 financial year, the Cabinet Office had asked for Sh160 million.
> >>This figure grew to Sh860 million in the Supplementary Budget and the Sh700 million difference would be the allocation for the retired president's office.
> >>Headed by Secretary to the Cabinet Francis Kimemia, the Cabinet Office is charged with organising the affairs of the Cabinet such as meetings, the agenda and the implementation of its projects.
> >>Its primary mandate is to organise and coordinate Government business.
> >>Mr Kimemia told the Sunday Nation the allocation is necessary because under the Presidential Retirement Benefits Act President Kibaki assented to before his retirement, he is supposed to have an office and staff.
> >>"He is supposed to have an office under the law. He is entitled to an office and staff, a full secretariat to manage his programmes the same way we did with former President Moi," said Mr Kimemia on the phone.
> >>"I thought you would say (Sh700 million) is too little. How much can you get a building for? We are set to buy him a building. We have to go to the market to advertise and we have got to pay staff and to buy him furniture because we don't have a building yet."
> >>Mr Kimemia said the government has been looking for an office for the former president within Nairobi and all the available ones cost more than Sh1 billion.
> >>When the former Prime Minister needed an office, the former coalition government acquired the then Shell/BP building at a cost of Sh700 million and then refurbished it.
> >>It is now the office of the Deputy President and also has various other government agencies as tenants.
> >>Mr Kimemia said the current allocation would be used to acquire the building, put in the security apparatus such as surveillance equipment plus purchasing the furniture and then to hire the staff the retired president needs as per the Act.--
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