[wanabidii] Re: [PK] Re: [africa-oped] The Supreme Court Opinion Is Intellectually Shallow, A Sham and Embarrassment to the Court

Correct!

In politics, if you want anything said, ask a man- if you want anything done ask a woman.

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Subject: [PK] Re: [africa-oped] The Supreme Court Opinion Is Intellectually Shallow, A Sham and Embarrassment to the Court

Mzee Warsama,

I never lost Petition No. 311. It is still alive in the High Court. Trust me I am going for the 16 crooks who stole some 9 billion shillings from Kenyans.

As for Dr. Willy Mutunga, I think he served Kenya better when he wrote a column for the Nation under the pseudonym Cabral Pinto. Mutunga has ceased being a catalyst for change and he is not a limit.

I just have to go and take a shower now that I have soiled myself typing his name.

Bure kabisa, Dr. Mutunga, kama ile ya mavi ya kuku ya mzee Obako. Bure kabisa.

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Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 6:20 PM
Subject: [africa-oped] The Supreme Court Opinion Is Intellectually Shallow, A Sham and Embarrassment to the Court

The supreme court is not open to appeal hence halts any further action by any party,hence i opine that the supreme court should have taken judicial notice of Omtatas Petition No.311 of 2012 - then as what he was addressing is now part of the subject matter of the judgement the presidential petitions sought to address or how can they use cases of courts with foreign jurisdictions to assist in making a decision about our country! (I know Omtata lost in the petition - perhaps we could have cured the ills then).

The court has inherent powers with which it could have (by its motion) call for all the registers including the green/red/white etc and the special register Snr Counsel Ngatia submitted about without a reference.

special interests in this matter should have been limited to deformity of limbs (left & right) - there were adverts for registration for the voters but there was no advert for special interest groups to register unless i cannot remember !

The courts should adress the citizenry on how one party can be a beneficiary of errors of I.E.B.C who are to face possible prosecution and pay the legal team ksh.380 m from the state coffers (I.E.B.C does not mint its money).

Our democracy,institutions and public officers are under trial!

Evans MACHERA.

Perhaps the learned judges feared calling for a fresh elections

From: Maurice Oduor <mauricejoduor@gmail.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 5:53 PM
Subject: Re: [uchunguzionline] Re: [PK] The Supreme Court Opinion Is Intellectually Shallow, A Sham and Embarrassment to the Court

Km,

No one pleases or impresses me without facts. I stand and work alone.

Wakili Omwenga is telling you the truth but you don't want to hear it. Courts make mistakes and that is why there are appeal courts. In this instance, it just happens that there is no avenue for appeal but they have made a grave error in judgment.

Courage

On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Kuria-Mwangi <kjmwangi@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks Okil. The problem is that Omwenga probably know that he is injecting confusion and just want to say things which will please Raila and the likes of Khaguli and MO. Problem is that they think he is helping them legally. God help Cord if they cant see the obvious.

Somebody had reported that SO is a well respect person in Cord esp. on legal matters but had dismissed that. Now I am starting to think that Raila really listens to SO and such talk may have informed his petition. I see the same stuff Oraro spewed coming from SO and he was floating the same before Oraro stood infront of the SC which means they really listened to SO and followed his script. I blame Oraro for refusing to tell them off and deciding to eat their money. May be he is like me who will eat money even from the devil but confess the sins after eating.

Now imagine the same cord in 2018, doing the same thing and going to court after getting legal advise from SO. Same place, same thing, same persons, same results. You cannot help or change some folks. But I feel sorry for the likes of Raila, MO and MK cheering SO as he leads them into a pitfall. Hawa watu hawajui your neighbors. They tell you what you want to hear. Eat your money and leave.

If I were raila, I would retain SO but not in legal circles. He is good in business like most Kisiis. So retain him in the economic/business docket. I would make him executive director of banana trade. Selling bananas in cord zones in order to raise money for cord.

On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 1:43 AM, Nyamodi Ochieng Nyamogo <okil@nyamogoadvocates.com> wrote:

KM,
What Omwenga et al are expressing are called their opinion and
they are entitled to so express! I only hope Omwenga does not
constipate us with more of the same as he is threatening to! I say
this because what Omwenga is complaining of against SC justices if
taken to a first year law class, the whole class would develop
something against law, move en masse to a Religious Education (RE)
class from where they'd graduate as heathen crusaders!!!
Frustrated types, like Fred Osewe, think it is enough to simply
rail and raid against the person of Nyamodi Ochieng-Nyamogo! It
certainly is not! In one of my contributions here i suggested that
"CORD" lawyers focused more on "burden of proof" at the expense of
"standard of proof"! The justices of the SC have ticked CORD off on
precisely that point! You complain about irregularities, yes, but
demonstrate also how you personally/peculiarly and significantly
suffered from such alleged irregularities to the equally
significant/peculiar/personal advantage of your opponent!!! The
justices have said as much when they found that there may have been
irregularities, but not significant enough to impeach the whole
electoral process!!!
Nyamodi Ochieng-Nyamogo.

On 4/17/13, bapfrancis@gmail.com <bapfrancis@gmail.com> wrote:
> Isn't the principle register of Februrary 18th that was gazetted 2 weeks to
> the elections? The one of Dec 18th was provisional. Oraros arguments were
> that as late as the 25th of Feb they were still creating the special
> register which both Oraro and Kethi argued should not have been the case.
> The gazetted register is the one that the public had inspected prior to the
> 18th of Feb
> Francis
> Sent from my BlackBerry®
>

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Samuel Omwenga <somwenga@gmail.com>
> Sender: progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com
> Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 22:22:07

> To: Progressive-Kenyans<progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com>
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> Subject: Re: [uchunguzionline] Re: [PK] The Supreme Court Opinion Is
> Intellectually Shallow, A Sham and Embarrassment to the Court
>
> KM,
>
> Here is the answer:
>
> The principal register is the one gazetted by the obviously now compromised
> IEBC on December 18, 2012 as required by law.
>
> All other registers IEBC created after that date were and still remain
> illegal and not recognized under any law.
>
> Wacha zako kuhusu aibu sababu nyinyi ndio hamuna mnaiba kura mchana bila
> aibu halafu mnaanza kibiga kelele wengine tunyamaze tusiseme kitu.
>
> This is the last time that happens.
>
> Peace, Unity and Truth
>
> Omwenga
>
> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note II
> On Apr 16, 2013 9:55 PM, "Kuria-Mwangi" <kjmwangi@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> SO
>> You refused to answer my questions but do me a favour and answer this
>> simple one.
>>
>> For the purposes of 2013, what was the principal register? If you know
>> the
>> answer, then you know why cord lost case. Also remember that SC judgement
>> becomes law so advise cord to forget the hell Oraro said and do what is
>> right. Now they know which votes will count and register counts. What you
>> say is good for discussion in Orange house but not elsewhere. Wacha
>> kuwapotosha akina MO tafadhali. Huna haya?
>> On Apr 16, 2013 8:08 PM, "Samuel Omwenga" <somwenga@gmail.com> wrote:
>>

>>> **

>>>
>>>
>>> KM,
>>>
>>> Worry not at all--not that you really do for there is no porojo here
>>> from
>>> yours truly but facts; just the facts.
>>>
>>> Peace, Unity and Truth
>>>
>>> Omwenga
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 7:37 PM, Kuria-Mwangi <kjmwangi@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> SO
>>>> I prefer those who studied law handle you. You are trying the same old
>>>> story where you think the case must have gone one way..the cord way. My
>>>> worry is that you might be believing in your own porojo.
>>>> On Apr 16, 2013 6:52 PM, "Samuel Omwenga" <somwenga@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> KM,
>>>>>
>>>>> You have not raised any issue I have not addressed a thousand times
>>>>> before it's pointless to keep repeating myself and stop denigrating
>>>>> senior
>>>>> counsel Oraro as having engaged in a "fishing expedition" unless you
>>>>> want
>>>>> to tell us you know nothing about how cases are litigated.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is Law 101 for you on trial practice and evidence: In Kenya much
>>>>> like any country where there is at least a semblance of a credible
>>>>> court
>>>>> system, a litigant (the one filing a case) is only required to start a
>>>>> case
>>>>> with minimal evidence to establish they meet the legal requirement to
>>>>> file
>>>>> such a case.
>>>>>
>>>>> Once that's done, either side of the case in a civil case such as the
>>>>> one Raila filed are allowed under court rules to obtain evidence and
>>>>> information from the other side and often get court orders to produce
>>>>> such
>>>>> evidence for the other side to use in their case.
>>>>>
>>>>> The problem with those of you who don't know or understand this think
>>>>> this is a "fishing expedition" when its no such a thing but ordinary,
>>>>> normal process of litigation otherwise there will not be a need to have
>>>>> a
>>>>> trial were this not possible.
>>>>>
>>>>> Get your facts straight or keep mum than smearing competent counsels
>>>>> like Oraro who are superb litigants and did the best they did in
>>>>> representing their client only to be dismissed by a Court that was now
>>>>> in
>>>>> hindsight not interested in hearing what they had to say nor what
>>>>> evidence
>>>>> they had or could obtain.
>>>>>
>>>>> Peace, Unity and Truth
>>>>>
>>>>> Omwenga
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 6:31 PM, Kuria-Mwangi
>>>>> <kjmwangi@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hell no MO. Forget the bribery porojo. You think the 6 judges would
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> willing to put Raila under the bus for Raila? what happened to you 5-1
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> one being Njoki Ndungu?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you see Omwenga address issues I raise? HELL NO, he wont because
>>>>>> he
>>>>>> does not anything legal to say. It is the same tired Oraro
>>>>>> fishing expedition.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 6:26 PM, Maurice Oduor <
>>>>>> mauricejoduor@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Very true Kuria, very true. He's only preaching to those of us who
>>>>>>> believe that the ruling was wrong. You guys don't care if the ruling
>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>> right or wrong; you take it as right because your only objective was
>>>>>>> not to
>>>>>>> see that Kenyans got justice; your objective was to see Uhuru win, by
>>>>>>> hooks
>>>>>>> or crooks. So whatever Wakili says will not move an extreme
>>>>>>> partisan like
>>>>>>> you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Courage
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 6:00 PM, Kuria-Mwangi
>>>>>>> <kjmwangi@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sawa but keep in mind that you are only preaching to the choir.
>>>>>>>> .yani to corders like MO
>>>>>>>> On Apr 16, 2013 5:40 PM, "Samuel Omwenga" <somwenga@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> KM,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> To further reply to you is to repeat myself a thousand times so
>>>>>>>>> let
>>>>>>>>> me not.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I will in due course post my final thoughts on this case as I said
>>>>>>>>> I would and that will be there for posterity even for my
>>>>>>>>> grandchildren to
>>>>>>>>> peruse and understand how tragic these past few weeks have been in
>>>>>>>>> Kenyan
>>>>>>>>> history.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Meanwhile, you can read some of my concluding thoughts on this in
>>>>>>>>> my column this weekend.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Peace, Unity and Truth
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Omwenga
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 4:58 PM, Kuria-Mwangi
>>>>>>>>> <kjmwangi@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Omwenga
>>>>>>>>>> If you could for a short time remove the ODM/Cord lenses and use
>>>>>>>>>> the objective lenses, you would see the point the judges had and
>>>>>>>>>> stop
>>>>>>>>>> repeating the cord point of view which was dismissed.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I will just use one of the examples you gave and which were used
>>>>>>>>>> massively by Cord to give the wrong impression. Here we go:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If you followed the case, you would by now have known that what
>>>>>>>>>> you call fraud is just an imagination from team cord. You are
>>>>>>>>>> making the
>>>>>>>>>> same mistake Cord lawyers/team used of using the Dec. 18th
>>>>>>>>>> register. This
>>>>>>>>>> was the register with only those captured by BVR. IEBC lawyers
>>>>>>>>>> convinced,
>>>>>>>>>> the judges and most Kenyans that Govt, through the good work of
>>>>>>>>>> Raila (the
>>>>>>>>>> supervisor) only managed to buy 14,000 kits! How many polling
>>>>>>>>>> stations are
>>>>>>>>>> there in Kenya? 33,000 and counting. What does that mean? Several
>>>>>>>>>> polling
>>>>>>>>>> stations shared same BVR kit. This means that your image was
>>>>>>>>>> captured under
>>>>>>>>>> polling station A but you voted in polling station C! Is that
>>>>>>>>>> legal? HELL
>>>>>>>>>> YES!. What is considered when one is voting? The information you
>>>>>>>>>> gave IEBC
>>>>>>>>>> (not Cord) on where you want to vote. This information is in a
>>>>>>>>>> form you
>>>>>>>>>> sign indicating where you want to vote. Only after checking the
>>>>>>>>>> register
>>>>>>>>>> Cord does not want to see and which is declared legal by SC (an
>>>>>>>>>> illegal by
>>>>>>>>>> Cord which means what cord payukers has not legal basis) otherwise
>>>>>>>>>> known as
>>>>>>>>>> the green book would get this information.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So if you only use the cord register, a polling station may have
>>>>>>>>>> zero voter(s) because the register is only BVR generated but a
>>>>>>>>>> serious
>>>>>>>>>> lawyer would want to see the form signed by the voter showing
>>>>>>>>>> where they
>>>>>>>>>> want to vote since the BVR was shared by many.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So before you flood these forums with cord misleading info like
>>>>>>>>>> the one you threw below, tell us whether the voters who voted
>>>>>>>>>> there are on
>>>>>>>>>> the greenbook and if they opted to vote where the BVR kit was not
>>>>>>>>>> located
>>>>>>>>>> (neighboring polling station).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So instead of flashing these numbers and repeating the same tired
>>>>>>>>>> info given by Oraro, Cord should tell us the following:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 1. Did a person who was not registered by Dec 18th get
>>>>>>>>>> registered?
>>>>>>>>>> If yes, who and why was it difficult to get affidavits for use in
>>>>>>>>>> court?
>>>>>>>>>> 2. Did Cord counter check to find out whether those who voted
>>>>>>>>>> there were registered and if yes they had indicated they wanted to
>>>>>>>>>> vote
>>>>>>>>>> there?
>>>>>>>>>> 3. Is it illegal for somebody to vote where they wanted if they
>>>>>>>>>> went to be captured by the limited BVR somewhere else?
>>>>>>>>>> 4. Why is Cord insisting on only one register and what is illegal
>>>>>>>>>> about the green book?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Once you agree with IEBC that they can register anyone who is
>>>>>>>>>> qualified via means beyond the BVR, you can then know that cord
>>>>>>>>>> was raising
>>>>>>>>>> the hell for the sake of it. We must repeat that BVR is not the
>>>>>>>>>> only means
>>>>>>>>>> of capturing info and that it is possible for it to fail and that
>>>>>>>>>> once you
>>>>>>>>>> dont give IEBC a BVR for each location, then some locations may
>>>>>>>>>> have fewer
>>>>>>>>>> or no members on the BVR and so any list generated from this kit
>>>>>>>>>> but may
>>>>>>>>>> see more folks voting elsewhere as per their request.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So SO, get out of this Cord confusion and accept the fact that
>>>>>>>>>> IEBC can have a register which is not electronic and that some
>>>>>>>>>> folks who
>>>>>>>>>> were in BVR had info getting lost and so they resulted to the
>>>>>>>>>> manual
>>>>>>>>>> register (green book).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So where the hell did Cord get the impression that a register
>>>>>>>>>> must
>>>>>>>>>> be electronically prepared? That is a recommended. So once you
>>>>>>>>>> agree that
>>>>>>>>>> we had lists from all over, some from EA and some for folks
>>>>>>>>>> without finger
>>>>>>>>>> prints, then you had to agree that there were names elsewhere and
>>>>>>>>>> all in
>>>>>>>>>> the green book. If Cord does not want to listen, that is their own
>>>>>>>>>> hell.
>>>>>>>>>> Sio kaka?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Many Form 34s show that there were more votes cast than
>>>>>>>>>> registered
>>>>>>>>>> voters. In Turbo
>>>>>>>>>> constituency, Polling Station 69, Stream 2, there were 784 votes
>>>>>>>>>> cast but only 755
>>>>>>>>>> registered voters. In Polling Station 71, Stream 2, there were
>>>>>>>>>> 741
>>>>>>>>>> votes cast but only 716
>>>>>>>>>> registered voters. In Kacheliba, Polling Station 112, there were
>>>>>>>>>> 215 votes cast but only
>>>>>>>>>> 214 registered voters.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 3:25 PM, Samuel Omwenga <
>>>>>>>>>> somwenga@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> **

>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> KM,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> You notice I am not responding to much of what you're saying
>>>>>>>>>>> because you keep repeating the same tired non-arguments advanced
>>>>>>>>>>> by IEBC
>>>>>>>>>>> and Hassan lawyers that are squarely disposed of by the evidence
>>>>>>>>>>> admitted
>>>>>>>>>>> in the record.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If you ignore evidence in the record and keep asking for the
>>>>>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>>>>>> evidence, then you're engaged in discourse which is useless for
>>>>>>>>>>> anyone else
>>>>>>>>>>> to engage in with you.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I know you have not read what's in evidence but take your time
>>>>>>>>>>> and read this analysis below of some of the evidence (forms 34)
>>>>>>>>>>> IEBC itself
>>>>>>>>>>> filed with the Court and tell me how you or anyone, let alone our
>>>>>>>>>>> highest
>>>>>>>>>>> court of the land can dismiss this as not evidence or trivial
>>>>>>>>>>> evidence!!!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Many Form 34s show that there were more votes cast than
>>>>>>>>>>> registered voters. In Turbo
>>>>>>>>>>> constituency, Polling Station 69, Stream 2, there were 784 votes
>>>>>>>>>>> cast but only 755
>>>>>>>>>>> registered voters. In Polling Station 71, Stream 2, there were
>>>>>>>>>>> 741 votes cast but only 716
>>>>>>>>>>> registered voters. In Kacheliba, Polling Station 112, there were
>>>>>>>>>>> 215 votes cast but only
>>>>>>>>>>> 214 registered voters.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2. In some Form 34s, only some presidential candidates were
>>>>>>>>>>> listed. For example, in
>>>>>>>>>>> Baringo South, Polling Station 91, Stream 1, it was only the
>>>>>>>>>>> names of Uhuru Kenyatta,
>>>>>>>>>>> Raila Odinga and Paul Muite that appeared. Some candidates were
>>>>>>>>>>> also missing from
>>>>>>>>>>> Form 34 in Baringo South, Polling Station 68, Stream 1.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Many of the figures on the form do not add up. For instance,
>>>>>>>>>>> one of the most glaring
>>>>>>>>>>> discrepancies occurs in Kacheliba constituency, Polling Station
>>>>>>>>>>> 102. Here, the votes cast
>>>>>>>>>>> are recorded as 0, while there are 170 rejected votes and 170
>>>>>>>>>>> valid votes. In Baringo
>>>>>>>>>>> South, Polling Station 117, Stream 1, there were 133 valid votes
>>>>>>>>>>> and 0 rejected votes,
>>>>>>>>>>> which should total 133 votes cast. The figure for votes cast,
>>>>>>>>>>> however, is 134. In
>>>>>>>>>>> Cherangany, Polling Station 2, Stream 5, the number of valid
>>>>>>>>>>> votes is 332 and the number
>>>>>>>>>>> of rejected votes is 4, which adds up to 336 total votes cast.
>>>>>>>>>>> The number of votes cast,
>>>>>>>>>>> however, is 340. In Turkana North, Polling Station 12, the
>>>>>>>>>>> number
>>>>>>>>>>> of votes cast (340)
>>>>>>>>>>> does not equal the number of valid votes (340) plus the number
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> rejected votes (5).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 4. There are several instances of changes having been made to
>>>>>>>>>>> various figures on the form,
>>>>>>>>>>> with no authorizing signature next to the change. Such
>>>>>>>>>>> alterations have affected
>>>>>>>>>>> individual candidates' results, the total number of votes cast,
>>>>>>>>>>> the number of rejected
>>>>>>>>>>> votes, the number of valid votes and the number of registered
>>>>>>>>>>> voters. Depending on
>>>>>>>>>>> whether this change is valid, it has the potential to affect
>>>>>>>>>>> other number on the form. For
>>>>>>>>>>> instance, a change to the number of rejected votes will
>>>>>>>>>>> necessarily change the number of
>>>>>>>>>>> total votes cast.
>>>>>>>>>>> official Form 34 for Polling Station 19 in Turkana Central.
>>>>>>>>>>> Instead, the results are
>>>>>>>>>>> reported on an ordinary piece of paper, which does not include
>>>>>>>>>>> the number of registered
>>>>>>>>>>> voters.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 6. Many Form 34s are missing. There is no Form 34 for Polling
>>>>>>>>>>> Station 84 or for Polling
>>>>>>>>>>> Station 99 in Turkana North. Polling Station 99 does not appear
>>>>>>>>>>> in the list of polling
>>>>>>>>>>> stations published on the IEBC website on February 24, 2013, but
>>>>>>>>>>> it does appear in the
>>>>>>>>>>> paper gazette. Forms 34 for Polling Stations 92 and 113 in
>>>>>>>>>>> Turkana Central are missing.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 7. Some forms do not include results for certain candidates. In
>>>>>>>>>>> Turkana Central, Polling
>>>>>>>>>>> Station 55, there are no results listed for Muite and Kenneth.
>>>>>>>>>>> In
>>>>>>>>>>> Turkana Central, Polling
>>>>>>>>>>> Station 65, there are no results listed for Kiyiapi, Karua,
>>>>>>>>>>> Dida,
>>>>>>>>>>> Muite and Mudavadi.
>>>>>>>>>>> 8. There are non-identical duplicates of certain forms. In
>>>>>>>>>>> Turkana Central, Polling Station
>>>>>>>>>>> 89, there are 4 nearly identical copies of Form 34. It is
>>>>>>>>>>> unclear
>>>>>>>>>>> whether the numbers on
>>>>>>>>>>> these forms were counted multiple times. In Kacheliba, Polling
>>>>>>>>>>> Station 2, there are two
>>>>>>>>>>> forms with different entries. There are also multiple copies of
>>>>>>>>>>> perfectly identical forms,
>>>>>>>>>>> and it is unclear whether or not these figures were counted more
>>>>>>>>>>> than once.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 9. There are many forms in which it is extremely difficult to
>>>>>>>>>>> determine the exact value of
>>>>>>>>>>> the written figure, either because of the handwriting or because
>>>>>>>>>>> the original figure has
>>>>>>>>>>> been written over with another number. There are an overwhelming
>>>>>>>>>>> number of such
>>>>>>>>>>> cases, and the choice of which number to report is subjective.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In sum, find some other argument to make than this lame one that
>>>>>>>>>>> Cord did not present evidence of irregularities anyone seeing it
>>>>>>>>>>> could not
>>>>>>>>>>> have concluded the elections were not at par with the
>>>>>>>>>>> Constitution.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Peace, Unity and Truth
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Omwenga
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Kuria-Mwangi
>>>>>>>>>>> <kjmwangi@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Aboge
>>>>>>>>>>>> You have said the most important point in this discussion.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The respondents lawyers gave examples from other places in the
>>>>>>>>>>>> world on presidential elections and everything was the same and
>>>>>>>>>>>> line of
>>>>>>>>>>>> what you say. The elections must be very Compromised for it to
>>>>>>>>>>>> be overturn.
>>>>>>>>>>>> This was not about run off which I understand the court had
>>>>>>>>>>>> little to do
>>>>>>>>>>>> with it but declaring as cord wanted for new election and voter
>>>>>>>>>>>> registration to be repeated. They asked for something which
>>>>>>>>>>>> would mean
>>>>>>>>>>>> getting a new EC and another voter registration. It meant
>>>>>>>>>>>> declaring other
>>>>>>>>>>>> seats vacant.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think the 2007 election would met the bill not 2013 one.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Clerical errors which could be corrected could not be used to
>>>>>>>>>>>> overturn the
>>>>>>>>>>>> elections. Grounds such registration of voters beyond Dec 18th
>>>>>>>>>>>> could have
>>>>>>>>>>>> helped. All we heard were calls to only recognize the
>>>>>>>>>>>> electronically
>>>>>>>>>>>> registered voters and similar transmission of results. I think
>>>>>>>>>>>> that will
>>>>>>>>>>>> not happen very soon when voting is manual. Repeating that
>>>>>>>>>>>> electronic
>>>>>>>>>>>> transmission was the only viable means would not cut it
>>>>>>>>>>>> anywhere. So what
>>>>>>>>>>>> if the failure was accidental? We quit? What of legally required
>>>>>>>>>>>> handing of
>>>>>>>>>>>> manual forms? And fact that only Hassan could declare the
>>>>>>>>>>>> results?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think when court declared that spoiled ballots could not be
>>>>>>>>>>>> used made the run off case harder. Cord never showed cases where
>>>>>>>>>>>> those who
>>>>>>>>>>>> voted were more than those registered. They just used one
>>>>>>>>>>>> register and SC
>>>>>>>>>>>> agreed with IEBC it was not meant to be one and definitely not
>>>>>>>>>>>> one used by
>>>>>>>>>>>> cord.
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 16, 2013 2:23 PM, "fred O aboge" <faboge@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for a court to overrule an entire electoral process, you have
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to do a lot of convincing. Cords legal team may have fallen
>>>>>>>>>>>>> short on this.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Its, however, time to roll up em sleeves and get to work. Lets
>>>>>>>>>>>>> keep an eye
>>>>>>>>>>>>> on anyone trying to run around the constitution. I already see
>>>>>>>>>>>>> signs that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> they're willing to start bending the rules by giving us
>>>>>>>>>>>>> defeated leaders in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the names of Kalonzo, Ngilu, Balala, Ongeri, Mwakere, Mudavai
>>>>>>>>>>>>> as "new and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> improved"!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Uhuru, dont do this to the country!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 1:17 PM, <bapfrancis@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ha ha ha ha KM you made my even ati what she payukered in bed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and in the kitchen was pure law lol. Kweni what did you do to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make her
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> payuka like that. For a moment there I thought what she did in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bed made you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> translate into mother tongue.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alas don't worry about Kethi. Vile wewe ni dume even that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boyfriend cannot estop you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But you are right that law seems to be a difficult
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> profession.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For once I realized its true its only what you can prove in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> court that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> matters not what you think is the truth
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Franco
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my BlackBerry®

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *From: * Kuria-Mwangi <kjmwangi@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sender: * progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Date: *Tue, 16 Apr 2013 13:56:20 -0400
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *progressive-kenyans<progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *ReplyTo: * progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Cc: *uchunguzi online<uchunguzionline@yahoogroups.com>; KOL<

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kenyaonline@yahoogroups.com>; wanakenya@googlegroups.com<
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wanakenya@googlegroups.com>; the last word to kenya<
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thelastwordtokenya@yahoogroups.com>; naijaobserver<
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> naijaobserver@yahoogroups.com>; talkhard@yahoogroups.com<
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> talkhard@yahoogroups.com>;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NigerianWorldForum@yahoogroups.com<
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NigerianWorldForum@yahoogroups.com>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [uchunguzionline] Re: [PK] The Supreme Court

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Opinion Is Intellectually Shallow, A Sham and Embarrassment to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Court
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Franco:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The only Law I have was what I got in the bedroom with a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beautiful Meru woman. She is as sharp as Betty Murungi and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they look as if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they are sisters. What she payukered in bed and in the kitchen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> places were pure law.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kethi did well. I think Oraro is a very good lawyer and did
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well in Hague. You cannot use one case to dismiss somebody. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would go for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oraro any time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What I meant was that he was trying to argue for a case
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was not there. Not even the best lawyer in the world could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have done it. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dont know what was in the 900 plus doc because nobody heard
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what was there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wish it was presented on time because I dont think we should
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have anyone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> denied the chance to show their side of the story. However, if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the law says
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we submit docs in 3 days, no exceptions at all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For Kethi, it is her eloquence which won my heart and my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> feelings were hurt when I heard she has a boyfriend. Mundu was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> working on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> getting yours truly to know her so I assume the plan now is to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> abandon her
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boyfriend for me. I will take her and her son. Kwani huyu
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kijana ni fisi au
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simba ati nita kwaruzwa. Only her fathers lions are standing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> between me and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> her, not her son. If we get child support from the knucklehead
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who sired
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> him, that will be okay but we dont need it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So if I gave the impression that Oraro is not a smart lawyer,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I beg to apologize. It is the way he presented this one but I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the points he didnt have. He has done very well in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> corporate world.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kethi won my heart and my mind. I dont care what others say
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about her size
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and her forehead. There are Kikuyu sayings which informs me in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that arena:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Gutiri utendenderu uta runda (any slippery can fell a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> man).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Njamba irundaguo ni mucakwe (a maize comb can fell a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jogoo)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. Gutiri mundurume muritu kuri mutumia (there is no man too
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> heavy for a woman)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. Gutiri gitanda kinini kuri mundurume and mutumia (there is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no bed too small for a man and a woman.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think the latter means that you can always go missionary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 1:32 PM, <bapfrancis@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have come to think you are a brilliant lawyer. At least
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will concede that Kethi Kilonzo represented well even if you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oraro did well. I personally think Oraro they would have done
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> better with a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simpler case such as insisting the court orders the use of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only the primary
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> register of 18th feb in a re run. But I don't know enough
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> law
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Francis
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my BlackBerry®

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *From: * Kuria-Mwangi <kjmwangi@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sender: * progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Date: *Tue, 16 Apr 2013 13:23:30 -0400
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *To: *uchunguzi online<uchunguzionline@yahoogroups.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *ReplyTo: * progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Cc: *progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com<

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com>; KOL<
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kenyaonline@yahoogroups.com>; wanakenya@googlegroups.com<
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wanakenya@googlegroups.com>; the last word to kenya<
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thelastwordtokenya@yahoogroups.com>; naijaobserver<
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> naijaobserver@yahoogroups.com>; talkhard@yahoogroups.com<
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> talkhard@yahoogroups.com>;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NigerianWorldForum@yahoogroups.com
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [uchunguzionline] Re: [PK] The Supreme Court

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Opinion Is Intellectually Shallow, A Sham and Embarrassment
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the Court
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not only in the blogs but those serving the coalition. I was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shocked to see them allow Oraro present shoddy work and then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expect any
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> judge to be convinced. Even if a judge had been oathed to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> submit to Raila
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as the spiritual leader a theocratic state called Cordland,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> he or she would
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not buy the evidence presented. Those of us who are legally
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> challenged but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> listened to all side told them before the ruling that there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was no case but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> since netters here listen to Omwenga, they got frustrated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> judgement. There is a big difference between the opinions and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> legal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> arguments given in court and the gossip columns Omwenga
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> writes for cord
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> orange members.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ngatia even suggested the likes of Oraro be punished for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> allowing themselves to present shoddy work and I agreed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am only upset with SC for not forcing the loser to pay the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cost. This will encourage frivolous petitions. Raila should
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have been
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forced to pay for the total cost so that in future they think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> twice before
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> submitting substandard and frivolous petitions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 1:14 PM, mohamed warsama <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mhmdwarsama@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In my opinion, the Supreme Court is made up of judges who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are vastly intellectually and socially superior to all Cord
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lawyers in our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blogs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mohamed Warsama
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Samuel Omwenga <somwenga@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* Progressive-Kenyans <

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com>; KOL <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kenyaonline@yahoogroups.com>; Wanakenya <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wanakenya@googlegroups.com>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:34 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* [PK] The Supreme Court Opinion Is Intellectually

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shallow, A Sham and Embarrassment to the Court
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Supreme Court Opinion Is Intellectually Shallow, A Sham and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Embarrassment To The

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Court<http://omwenga.com/2013/04/16/the-supreme-court-opinion-is-intellectually-shallow-a-sham-and-an-embarrassment-of-the-court/>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Supreme Court has issued it's long awaited opinion in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Raila and AfriCog petitions; you can read the opinion at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Supreme
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Court

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Opinion<http://marsgroupkenya.org/pdfs/2013/04/Full%20Judgement-Petition%20No.%205%20of%202013.pdf>

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a joke of a an opinion and an embarrassment of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Supreme Court to say the least.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How can the Court regurgitate without analysis what the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lawyers argued and call that an opinion!!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What passes as legal analysis is only but a handful or so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pages the rest one may as well read the pleadings, which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyone can do.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A court, let alone the highest court of the land is

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supposedrequired to analyze what's presented as evidence,

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which includes the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> written pleadings and render an informed, sound legal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> judgment supported by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that evidence.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's obviously not what we have here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is the second saddest day for Kenya second only to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> day the Supreme Court dismissed the Raila and AfriCog's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> petition the impact
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the Supreme Court's letting the country down will be felt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for decades.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> More on this coming soon.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Peace, Unity and Truth
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Omwenga
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