On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 10:50 PM, Herrn Edward Mulindwa <mulindwa@look.ca> wrote:
There is only one marble remaining in this equation, The Government of
United States allowing courts to go after them, for some reason it is very
complex to sue an American priest for Washington goes after you. They are
sitting in there and we know they are child molesters. We need an opening up
in the American government to this issue as Canada and many European
countries have done.
Then it will become fair play.
EM
On the 49th
Thé Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni and Dr. Kiiza Besigye Uganda is in anarchy"
Kuungana Mulindwa Mawasiliano Kikundi
"Pamoja na Yoweri Museveni na Dk. Kiiza Besigye Uganda ni katika machafuko"
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From: ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com
[mailto:ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of jim muwanga
Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 3:46 PM
To: ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [UAH] Black pope and the silliness of Africans
he he he he
no. these chaps are likely to overturn the tables thye will go for da
priests!!!!!!!
he he he
On 3/10/13, Ocen Nekyon <ocennekyon@gmail.com> wrote:
> Better the Nuns than the Altar boys???:-))
>
> Ocen
>
>
> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: jim muwanga <muwangajim@gmail.com>
> Sender: ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com
> Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 21:38:16
> To: <ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com>
> Reply-To: ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [UAH] Black pope and the silliness of Africans
>
> no Ocen they were scared of becoz ugandans would pomp the nuns.
> celibacy my foot ! not in Nyendo or Lukaya.
>
>
> he he he
>
> On 3/10/13, Ocen Nekyon <ocennekyon@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Jim:
>>
>> One does not need to have been abused to be affected by those scandals.
>>
>> Here in Boston the Catholic Diocese had to sell many a prime property
>> to settle many of these cases against it.
>>
>> Once in awhile I get invited to a Ugandan function held at a Catholic
>> church. I made to understand that Ugandans have kept this church
>> afloat due to regular attendance. Years ago I remember this same
>> church was kind of snobbish because Ugandan were not
>> considered"Catholic" enough.
>>
>> How things change!
>>
>>
>> Ocen
>> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: jim muwanga <muwangajim@gmail.com>
>> Sender: ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com
>> Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 21:11:54
>> To: <ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com>
>> Reply-To: ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: [UAH] Black pope and the silliness of Africans
>>
>> Ocen
>>
>> you read.
>>
>>
>> I am working with a scotish colleague.
>>
>> he told me on tuesday he dumped the catholic church years ago! he
>> does not go to church.
>>
>> I am still too polite to ask him if its becoz he was abused! by the
>> priests
>>
>> NB he is married
>>
>> On 3/10/13, Ocen Nekyon <ocennekyon@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Jim:
>>>
>>> The funny thing about all this is that from a report I read sometime
>>> ago; church attendance has fallen in Europe and North America
>>> especially after all the altar boy scandals.
>>>
>>>
>>> The only areas where church membership has increased is Africa and
>>> Latin America.
>>>
>>>
>>> Evangelistical churches are giving all mainstream churches which
>>> include the Protestant ones a run for their money.
>>>
>>>
>>> Should that be factored in when choosing a new Pope?
>>>
>>> Ocen
>>> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: jim muwanga <muwangajim@gmail.com>
>>> Sender: ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com
>>> Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 20:52:28
>>> To: <ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com>
>>> Reply-To: ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: [UAH] Black pope and the silliness of Africans
>>>
>>> May be ....Paulo. i will think about it.
>>>
>>> I asked a question here.... how many cardinals are black in the so
>>> called encalve?
>>>
>>> how many would vote for a blak pope?
>>>
>>> WBK said next pope is italian. point is Italians are broke!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/10/13, Paul Mugerwa <mugerwas5@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Jim,
>>>>
>>>> Can you walk me through the article please? It seems to me that
>>>> the author begins by advocating for a black Pope. However, he seems
>>>> to end by dismissing anything the would be black pope could stand
>>>> for.
>>>>
>>>> Do you think he would be okey with a foreign god so long as a black
>>>> pope is at the helm?
>>>>
>>>> Is it possible for the human race to have originated from various
>>>> and competing gods? Could it be intellectually reasonable to
>>>> search for the only true God? The only one God creator of
>>>> everything including all gods from different geographical areas.
>>>>
>>>> Happy Sunday.
>>>>
>>>> Paul Mugerwa
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 5:45 AM PDT jim muwanga wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Not catholic enuf becoz he is not homo???
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>he he he
>>>>>
>>>>>On 3/10/13, Ocen Nekyon <ocennekyon@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> If you are not yet used to "His Is Not Black Enough!" Wait for
>>>>>> "He Is Not Catholic Enough!"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ocen
>>>>>> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: jim muwanga <muwangajim@gmail.com>
>>>>>> Sender: ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 14:25:47
>>>>>> To: ugandans-at-heart<ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>> Reply-To: ugandans-at-heart@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Subject: [UAH] Black pope and the silliness of Africans
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Black pope and the silliness of Africans
>>>>>>
>>>>>> by Sabella Abidde (sabidde@yahoo.com)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Courtesy of Punch Newspapers, Wednesday, March 6, 2013
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Africans do not have the required experience yet to produce a Pope."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Monsignor Georg Ratzinger (Elder brother to Pope Benedict XV1)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Christian Holy Book tells us that Saint Peter, sometimes
>>>>>> referred to as Simon Peter, was a fisherman and one of the 12
>>>>>> apostles of Jesus Christ. He was also the first Bishop of Rome
>>>>>> (Pope). He is well-regarded within Christian tradition. In the
>>>>>> 2000 years history of the Catholic Church, there have been some
>>>>>> 265 popes. While a dozen or so were in office for 20-plus years,
>>>>>> others lasted mere days and or weeks. Geographically, Africa has
>>>>>> produced three popes. The 14th pope, Victor I (189-199 A.D.) was
>>>>>> said to be from North Africa. And while the 32nd pope, Miltiades
>>>>>> (311-314 A.D.), and the 49th pope, Gelasius I
>>>>>> (492-496 A.D.) were born in Rome – both had North African ancestry.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But racially, the continent has yet to produce a Pope. And it is
>>>>>> not likely to produce one anytime within the next 100 years. The
>>>>>> papacy, after all, is a European institution – an institution
>>>>>> dominated, almost exclusively, by the Italians. From the moment
>>>>>> Pope Benedict XVI announced his resignation, speculations began
>>>>>> to whirl about whether or not "the time is here and now" for a
>>>>>> pope to come out of sub-Saharan Africa. On the list of the
>>>>>> favoured are Francis Cardinal Arinze, and Peter Cardinal Turkson.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A lot has been written about the former, but not the later. Peter
>>>>>> Kodwo Appiah Turkson is a Ghanaian who was ordained to the
>>>>>> priesthood in July 1975, and was appointed spokesman for the
>>>>>> Second Synod for Africa in 2009. He is the current president of
>>>>>> the Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace. The PCJP is
>>>>>> concerned, first and foremost, with issues of peace, justice, and
>>>>>> human rights as seen through the sensibility of the Vatican.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cardinals Arinze and Turkson have what it takes to be the next pope.
>>>>>> But don't hold your breath: neither men will be elected. The odds
>>>>>> do not favour them. Ordinarily, any Catholic male who has reached
>>>>>> the age of reason, but not yet passed age 80, can be elected
>>>>>> pope. In reality, however, only ordained male priests can be
>>>>>> electors and with the power to select the pope. What's more,
>>>>>> there are other rules and traditions that come into play when
>>>>>> electing a pope. It is these "rules and tradition and bigotry"
>>>>>> that make it difficult, if not impossible, for a black priest or
>>>>>> cardinal, to emerge a pope. Not now, anyway.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For those who are in doubt, Monsignor Georg Ratzinger (elder
>>>>>> brother to Pope Benedict), already made it clear, unambiguously
>>>>>> clear that "Africans do not have the required experience yet to
produce a Pope."
>>>>>> He is not a layman. He is an insider. A deep-throat, if you will.
>>>>>> Sixty years of priesthood has taught and convinced Georg
>>>>>> Ratzinger (an ordained Catholic priest since 1951), that Africans
>>>>>> are not ready for global leadership vis-a-vis the papacy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Many of the Church's early and significant members from the first
>>>>>> century were Africans. Back then, the Church had four patriarchates:
>>>>>> Jerusalem; Constantinople; Antioch; and Alexandria. Today, there
>>>>>> is an estimated 170 million Catholics in Africa with a sizeable
>>>>>> number of priests, cardinals, and catechists. Yet – yet – these
>>>>>> are not enough for the Vatican and its network and for the likes
>>>>>> of Georg Ratzinger to consider and elect a black pope. No African
>>>>>> cardinal or priest is knowledgeable and advanced enough to be a
>>>>>> pope.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Africans have invested untold amount of resources in the Catholic
>>>>>> Church, yet, their investment is, according to the likes of
>>>>>> Ratzinger, not buoyant enough for the top spot. It is all
>>>>>> politics, folks:
>>>>>> politics, prejudice and insincerity. Nothing more! In a way, I
>>>>>> commend Georg Ratzinger for voicing the "inner thought and
>>>>>> feeling" of the Church's hierarchy. And as Benedict XVI's elder
>>>>>> brother, it is likely that he was also voicing the Pope Emeritus'
>>>>>> view on the matter. The selection/election will be man's doing;
>>>>>> not God's!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As of today, the top contenders for the Bishop of Rome (Pope) are
>>>>>> Cardinal Angelo Scola (71, Italy); Cardinal Peter Turkson (64,
>>>>>> Ghana); Cardinal Marc Ouellet (68, Canada); Cardinal Angelo
>>>>>> Bagnasco (70, Italy); Cardinal Francis Arinze (80, Nigeria);
>>>>>> Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone (78, Italy); Cardinal Gianfranco Ravasi
>>>>>> (70, Italy); Cardinal Leonardo Sandri (69, Argentina); Cardinal
>>>>>> Odilo Scherer (63, Brazil); Cardinal Claudio Hummes (78, Brazil);
>>>>>> Cardinal Claudio Hummes (78, Brazil); Cardinal Christoph
>>>>>> Schönborn (68, Austria); and Cardinal Malcolm Ranjith (65, Sri
>>>>>> Lanka). Again, the selection/election process will be man's
>>>>>> doing; not God's! And these men have decided that "Africans do
>>>>>> not have the required experience yet to produce a Pope."
>>>>>> What experience is Georg Ratzinger alluding to? How to speak
>>>>>> Latin or Italian, or how to walk in those red shoes?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't blame Georg Ratzinger and his type. I really don't! After
>>>>>> all, it was the Africans who rejected and abandoned their
>>>>>> ancestral gods – the most original and authentic of all gods –
>>>>>> for the white man's god.
>>>>>> For centuries, the Vatican has been looking down on Africans with
>>>>>> pity and disdain; and treating them like slow-developing children
>>>>>> who are incapable of complicated and uncomplicated tasks. And
>>>>>> indeed, other religious denominations and sects also look down on
>>>>>> Africans. The basic problem of many Africans is that most are
>>>>>> fools, imitators, and are always seeking approval from outside.
>>>>>> No one is going to treat us with respect when we disown our own
>>>>>> gods, myth, history, and traditions. No one! Their gods are not
>>>>>> better than ours!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Africans had their own creation stories; and so did every
>>>>>> "traditional society" on the face of the earth. Silly Africans,
>>>>>> they condemned their own stories and belief system and then
>>>>>> wholly adopted the stories from the Middle East (Islam and
>>>>>> Christianity). We have forgotten that everything – everything –
>>>>>> points to and confirms Africa as the beginning of mankind. We had
>>>>>> our own creation stories, had our own gods, and had our own
>>>>>> survival mechanism. For thousands of years, we survived. The
>>>>>> biggest calamity which has befallen, and which will eventually
>>>>>> destroy Africa and its people are Islam and Christianity.
>>>>>> And any other imported religion and gods and belief systems.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> John Henrik Clarke was infinitely right when he said, "Anytime
>>>>>> you turn on your own concept of God, you are no longer a free
>>>>>> man. No one needs to put chains on your body, because the chains
>>>>>> are on your mind." The Church, especially, is destroying our mind
>>>>>> and our continent.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Posted in Rastas.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2 comments
>>>>>> By Don Jaide – March 9, 2013
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