Tuesday 22 January 2013

[wanabidii] Re: [PK] .....Sonko Vs. Bishop....!

Bw.Kuria,
 
Who told you that kenyans lean from history ( case of Matiba in '92 + Obako in 07).
 
Please note that Kenyans are smart in repeating history!
 
Evans MACHERA

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Subject: Re: [PK] .....Sonko Vs. Bishop....!

Agree. Too many gnus chasing one seat/

On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 10:55 PM, Maurice Oduor <mauricejoduor@gmail.com> wrote:
KM,
 
The way I see these things now, I wish the Constitution called for 50%+1 for all positions. Right now, we can easily elect a Governor in nairobi with even less than 30% popular vote.
 
Courage


 
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 10:35 PM, Kuria-Mwangi <kjmwangi@gmail.com> wrote:
Right on the mark MO. Coalition means working to win at all levels. What should have happened is call for primaries involving all parties and then supporting whoever wins. In Cord I see folks defecting from ODM to wiper or Ford-K and I ask myself if they know what they are doing.

Take the case of Kibaki in 2007. He wins an area but his party flops in other areas. This is because at 50-60%, you have 3 or more parties splitting votes and so the other party with 40-50 wins. Matiba should have taught them a lesson in 2002 in voting 3 piece and so other fridge parties lost everything.

Wanjiru could have done very well. Get the Kikuyu votes, then Luo, Luhyia and Kamba votes plus those votes from those who like Raila. That could have caused problems even for Sonko since all votes would be in one basket under Cord. Now the 2007 may see a reversal in favor of TNA because URP and Narc are not fronting big wigs in the city. So all votes going to Uhuru goes to Sonko-Waititu-Shebesh while in Cord, Rao votes gets split by akina Omtatah-Wanjiru- and whoever may be fronted by Jirongo. Same applies to Kisia-Kidero. ODM/Cord need to also realize that Livondo and others fronted by MM may also eat from their side so that OOO and Livondo may be splitting the Luhyia vote further. So if Sonko got 40%, he could easily win.


On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 10:21 PM, Maurice Oduor <mauricejoduor@gmail.com> wrote:
KM,
 
I don't think these people understand the meaning of a coalition. How can each coalition partner field a candidate for Nairobi Governor? And even Mombasa !!!  Justr bizarre.
 
Courage
 


 
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 9:45 PM, Kuria-Mwangi <kjmwangi@gmail.com> wrote:
Not to forget Jirongo's candidate unless he only has Kisia who splits votes with Kidero and whoever is being fronted by Wiper. 


On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 9:42 PM, Kuria-Mwangi <kjmwangi@gmail.com> wrote:
Tell Mheshimiwa that the voting will be six piece suit so whoever would have voted for Ongoro will vote for Wanjiru. Only exception will be Wanjiru church goers who will vote for her and Rao. Dethroning Sonko wont be easy.

Also, Wanjiru will be disadvantaged by the numerous senators seeking Raila votes. There Omtatah who will carry votes and Kalonzo's Wiper has their own. While they help Rao, the same mistake repeated by Kibaki in 2007 is being replicated by by Rao. Assuming Rao gets 60%, those votes get swallowed by 3 folks. If TNA manages to get all votes in one basket, they will sweep parliamentary, gubernatorial and senate seats. This is something Rao, Wetangula and Kalonzo need to think about. They may walk out with nothing if they go with with all those gnus.


On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 5:52 AM, MBEMBA NZIU <kingasste@gmail.com> wrote:
Mheshimiwa,

Not even RT.HON. RAO can beat SONKO for the Nairobi senate seat! Remember Hon. Mutula Kilonzo shied away scared of Sonko?, Gumo had to retire as well as Hon. Mugo?, Elizabeth Ongoro would have been minced meat?, just wait Bishop will be beaten hands down by this Sonko man.

My take,

Mbemba.


On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Mheshimiwa... <totiaa@gmail.com> wrote:

Mama na KASHI....Luos,Luyhas,Kisiis,her Mungiki followers,wafuazi wa Kanisa wake and Okuyu ule unapenda Wanjiru watapigia yeye na SHONKO ataona DUSHT....Fanya huyo HESHABU....Huyu shiasha anakuwa sweetment shaha....hehehehe...
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