Ndaki,
Kweli ni Waislam kwa majina yao kwa hiyo unatuambia nini?
Hivi dreva akiendesha gari ndiyo limeisha kuwa lake?
Nchi hii ni ya Mwenyeheri Nyerere bwana ala!
Angalia Mfumo Kristo unavyo wapeleka puta maskini mpaka wamelazimishwa kuleta JWTZ mitaani kuonesha kwamba kuna tatizo kubwa wakati hata maandamano yenyewe hakuna.Watu wamekamatwa maeneo ya BOT tunaambiwa ni katika viunga vya Ikulu.Watu wamesombwa kutoka nyumbani na kwenye maduka yao kisa wanapanga kuandamana.
Vijana watatu waendesha bodaboda wakristo nao wako ndani kwa kuchoma makanisa.
Mtaharibu hii nchi kwa chuki zenu zisizo na maana.
1998 tulikuwa na Mahita na Yusufu Makamba na walikuwa wakisifiwa na kukaribishwa mpaka kwenye makongamano ya Injili na unajua walichokifanya kwa Waislam.
Kama ni mkweli wa nafsi yako basi hebu eleza maamuzi ya nchi hii yanaendeshwa na nani huko mawizarani na katika mashirika ya umma.
Ukiwa muadilifu ndiyo hayo kila siku Udini na ndilo linalomkuta Dr Ramadhani Dau.
Ninyi watu ni wabaya sana.Nchi mmeifanya maskini bado tu.
Walewale.
From: Hosea Ndaki <hosea.ndaki@gmail.com>
To: wanabidii@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2012 4:34 PM
Subject: Re: [wanabidii] Sehemu Ya Msimamo Wa CHADEMA Kuhusu Kukamatwa Sheikh Ponda & Amir Farid - Mwanzo
Chamani usitupotoshe, Rais ni mwisilam, makamu wake ni mwislam, IGP ni mwisilam, Kova ni mwislam, safu nzima ya serikali ni ya waislam, huko zenj pamoja na kuwapo wakristo serikali yote ni ya waislam, tumeishaijua rangi ya paka. Wameenda kumkamata ponda kuchochea uhalali wao kumnyima haki Emmanuel Mwinuka.
Wameenda kuita JW baada ya kuona uwezekano wa police kuwapiga risasi hawa wahuni ni mkubwa.
2012/10/21 amour chamani <abachamani@yahoo.com>
Hosea,
Mfumo kristo umewaathiri sana na kwakweli umewapofua mioyo yenu.Unasema Ponda asiingizwe kwenye siasa ana mambo yake na serikali(serikali siyo siasa?)
Marando na Safari hawakustahiki kuzungumza hilo katika ofisi za CHADEMA.Unataka tuelewe nini kuhusu CHADEMA?Hivi ukizungumza haki za binadamu hasa ya kupata dhamana ndiyo tayari ushaunga mkono na ukilaumu ndiyo uko nyuma ya nani? Bilashaka waliovunjiwa makanisa.Mnamaliza mnataka amani na mshikamano.KWELI NDUGU ZANGU KWA CHUKI KIASI HIKI.Kwanini watu wasipewe dhamana kisha wakashitakiwa na mkaenda mkatoa huo ushahidi kuongezea ule wa kiintelejensia wa Kamanda kisha wakafungwa hata kama ni miaka 100.Kwanini mnataka waadhibiwe bila kuhukumiwa?Walewale.
From: Hosea Ndaki <hosea.ndaki@gmail.com>
To: wanabidii@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2012 12:29 PM
Subject: Re: [wanabidii] Sehemu Ya Msimamo Wa CHADEMA Kuhusu Kukamatwa Sheikh Ponda & Amir Farid - Mwanzo
Tusitake kumwingiza Sheikh Ponda kwenye siasa, yeye anamambo yake na serikali. Kuna kipindi alikuwa analaani mashindano ya miss tanzania hata akatishia kumsomea albadir Hashim Lundenga. Pia aliwahi laani kitendo cha kijana Mwinjuma kijana aliyekulia katika maadili ya kiislam kujitafutia riziki kwa kuchezesha wasichana nusu uchi kwenye mabaa usiku.Pia siamini kama Ponda ni Answar Sunny kwani hata ndevu hafugi, pia waliosoma uturuki Iran na Saudia kusema ndo waleta choko choko nalo si kweli, mbona vijana kama Sheikh Juma Salum hana mambo hayo!
Sheikh Ponda yuko mahakamani na si mara yake ya kwanza kufikishwa kortini, tuviachie vyombo vya dola vimtendee haki. Marando na Safari walipaswa kuzungumza kama maoni yao binafsi tena wakiongelea sebuleni kwao au kwenye ofisi zao za uwakili, kuliongelea wakiwa katika ofisi za CDM nikutaka kutuaminisha CDM iko nyuma ya uchomaji wa makanisa uvamizi wa viwanja na kusomea watu abadir. Mbona hawajazungumzia haki za Mtoto Emmanuel anaeshikiliwa na polisi kwa siku kadhaa bila kufikishwa mahakamani au yeye haki haitakiwi kutendeka?Sijasikia akina Halima Mdee, Esta Bulaya Kijo Bisimba na Nkya wakikimbizama mahabusu kumtizama Mtoto Emmanuel Mwinuka anaeshikiliwa na polisi kinyume cha sheria kama walivyofanya kwa Lulu na Dr.Ulimboka.Kutumika kwa JWTZ kukimbiza wahuni mtaani ni jambo la aibu sana, pia dunia nzima imeshangazwa na mtoto kukojolea kitabu akidadisi kama anaweza kuwa mjusi leo hao CDM wamekaa kimya, wanachoona wao ni dhamana ya Ponda tu.2012/10/21 amour chamani <abachamani@yahoo.com>
Kumekucha 2015.Walewale.
From: Tony PT <tony_uk45@yahoo.co.uk>
To: wanabidii@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2012 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: [wanabidii] Sehemu Ya Msimamo Wa CHADEMA Kuhusu Kukamatwa Sheikh Ponda & Amir Farid - Mwanzo
Joe,--
That's not true by all standards! I have evidence ya makanisa na hotuba za wenye makanisa yao, wakihimiza waumini wao wasichague sisiemu! Nina uhakika unatoa hisia na hauna ushahidi wa unalolisema! Udini ni sehemu tu ya mabaya yanayolikumba taifa letu, acheni kuleta vijisababu vya kufikirika hapa; please be scientific!
Sent wirelessly from my BlackBerry device on the Bell network.
Envoyé sans fil par mon terminal mobile BlackBerry sur le réseau de Bell.
From: Joseph Kahoko <jkahoko@yahoo.com>Sender: wanabidii@googlegroups.comDate: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 01:03:43 -0700 (PDT)ReplyTo: wanabidii@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: [wanabidii] Sehemu Ya Msimamo Wa CHADEMA Kuhusu Kukamatwa Sheikh Ponda & Amir Farid - Mwanzo--
Mbegu hii ya udini ilipandikizwa na CCM mwaka 2010 ili kuvuna kura za Waislam. Walizipata kura hizo na kushinda uchaguzi lakini matokeo yake sasa ndio haya. Waliahidiwa mambo mengi sasa wanataka yatekelezwe lakini hayatekelezeki. Tatizo ni tamaa za kupata madaraka bila kuangalia gharama za kuyapata hayo madaraka. Hivyo naunga mkono kauli ya Profesa Safari anaposema matatizo yanayotokea sasa, yameletwa na CCM kutokana na hatua yao ya kuwatumia baadhi ya waislamu kupandikiza mbegu ya udini nchini.
--- On Sun, 10/21/12, mngonge <mngonge@gmail.com> wrote:
From: mngonge <mngonge@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [wanabidii] Sehemu Ya Msimamo Wa CHADEMA Kuhusu Kukamatwa Sheikh Ponda & Amir Farid - Mwanzo
To: wanabidii@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, October 21, 2012, 7:49 AM
Sina uhakika kama tamko hilo limehaririwa na viongozi wa juu wa CHADEMA nashawishika kuliiita tamko hilo kwamba ni maoni binafsi ya Marando na Prof. safari. Siamini CHADEMA kama imefika mahali pa kukosa uelekeo kiasi hicho. Kuna mambo hapa yanajikanganya. Wanasema waislamu wana madai yao ya msingi kwa serikali sawa na kwamba BAKWATA haikubaliki vizuri kwa waislamu.
Hivi wao Marando na Safari hayo madai wameyatoa wapi? Vurugu zinazoendelea hazina sura kama hiyo wanayodai badala yake zina sura ya udini hili halina ubishi. Kama madai yao ni kwa serikali na kutoikubali BAKWATA basi tungeshuhudia wakichoma mali za serikali na za Bakwata ikiwemo misikiti.
Tunakumbuka vizuri sana kwamba uliwahi kuwepo mzozo kati ya BAKWATA na BALUKUTA na mwisho wa siku BALUKTA ilifutwa na serikali. Kwa wakati ule ilikuwa ni sawa. Kwa sasa sura imekwishabadirika na kuanza kudai kwamba serikali ni ya mfumo kristu na hivyo wanapambana na ukristu siyo serikali wala BAKWATA. Matukio ya uchomaji wa makanisa, mihadhara ya kukashifu ukristu, pamoja na uchomaji wa mabaa na ubomoaji wa butcher za nyama ya nguruwe ni matukio yaliyo wazi. Kama wana madai kwa serikali basi ndo hayo ya kuishi kwa mjibu wa sharia siyo sheria ambazo rais aliapa kusimamia au pengine wanadai ukristu usiwepo Tanzania. Hayo ndiyo madai munayotaka serikali ijadili na hicho kikundi cha baadhi ya waislamu?
Kikundi hicho cha waislamu kimekwishabadilisha mwelekeo na kuanza vita na ukristu wala hakina matatizo na serikali. Pamoja na kwamba rais ni muislam wakiwemo mawaziri kadhaa na viongozi wengine bado kundi hilo linaendelea kusisitiza kwamba serikali ni ya mfumo kristu.
Marando na safari pengine muko sawa munaposema tatizo imelilea serikali kwa kuwaacha wavuruga amani na uhuru wa watanzania kuendelea na harakati hizo kwa muda mrefu bila kuchukuliwa hatua zinazofaa. Hili la Ponda kunyimwa dhamana binafsi sioni kama ni tatizo la msingi, tatizo la msingi ni kuchimbua mizizi ya vurugu hizi na wala siyo kushughulikia dalili. Ponda kwa sasa ana kesi kibao ata akiachiwa kwa kesi hiyo bado anaunganishwa na wale muliowaita wahuni waliovunja makanisa wakiwa na siraha (armed robbery) hiyo dhamana munayopigia kelele itakuwa na maana gani? Ponda si mgeni katika kuchochea vurugu za kidini ni mzoefu wa siku nyingi.
Natofautiana na nyinyi kwa kusema kama munawaita waislamu hao kwamba ni kikundi cha wahuni basi ni hatari. Maana mipango ya kufanya uhuni ilifanyikia misikitini na baada ya swala ya ijumaa ni watu hao hao waliotoka misikitini na kuanza fujao. Muna maana serikali imekiruhusu kikundi cha wahuni kujenga misikiti huko mbagala na kwingineko? Mimi nasema si kikundi cha wahuni bali ni kundi fulani la waumini wa dini ya kiislamu wakiongozwa na Ponda.
Munaposema waislamu wanayo madai ya msingi pengine ni kweli yapo lakini hiki kikundi cha Ponda ndo wawakilishi wa waislamu wote? Kikundi cha Ponda mumekiita kikundi cha wahuni ina maana wazee wa kiislamu wenye busara zao wamekituma kikundi cha wahuni kudai haki za waislamu kwa kuchoma makanisa? Acheni kutafuta maneno yasiyokuwa na kichwa wala miguu nafuu mungekaa kimya namna hiyo munaifanya CHADEMA iwe na sura ya watu wasiokuwa focussed na wanaolazimisha hoja bila misingi. Au mumetumwa kukichafua CHADEMA?
2012/10/20 ELISA MUHINGO <elisamuhingo@yahoo.com>
--- On Sat, 10/20/12, Magiri paul <kiganyi@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Magiri paul <kiganyi@gmail.com>
Subject: [wanabidii] Sehemu Ya Msimamo Wa CHADEMA Kuhusu Kukamatwa Sheikh Ponda & Amir Farid - Mwanzo
To: wanabidii@googlegroups.com
Date: Saturday, October 20, 2012, 11:17 AM
Chama cha Demokrasia na Maendeleo (CHADEMA), kimekutana na waandisihi wa habari makao makuu ya chama hicho jijini Dar es Salaam leo, ambapo wajumbe wa Kamati Kuu, Profesa Abdallah Safari na Mabere Marando, wameweka waziwazi msimamo wa chama hicho kuhusiana na mgogoro kati ya waislamu na serikali na kukamatwa kwa Sheikh Farid huko Zanzibar.
http://wotepamoja.com/archives/9371#.UILqpeUSd8k.gmail --
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