Saturday 15 September 2012

[wanabidii] Re: (VVM Forum) Re: [PK] Nyama ya Panya na Punda ni mbaya!

MO,
The export of snails and frogs to France is an ready market that we cannot satisfy.The challenge will be to get farmers for this type of animal husbandry.
The market for dogs is also untapped .The challange will be to secure the silence of animal rights activitists.Otherwise we cab export frozen dog meat like Taiwanese export frozen pork to USA earning 20 billion USD per year.
Locally,I know a kikuyu friend of mine who had become millionaire by sourcing dogs from ugenya,garrisa for the Chinese building Thika Road.we call him Kariuki Mali ya Umbwa aka Kariuki wa Ngui.
Rats for Giriama there is ready market. In Kisii there is a problem in that there are too many SDAs.They don't drink coke and can't eat unhoofed animals.You know that MO?
MOTURI


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On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 19:46 BST Maurice Oduor wrote:

>Moturi,
>
>That is a business idea. But first you have to investigate the market
>and ascertain who your customers are and how easy it would be easy to
>sell.
>
>Courage
>
>
>
>On 9/15/12, samuel moturi <samoturiy@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>
>> MO,
>> extraordinary situations attract extraordinary moves.The case you have given
>> is one in the extreme but really supports Githae's point.we did not have the
>> culture of eating rice,mandazi na pilau.why not go fully Chinese?We should
>> breed dogs for export to China and Phillipines,frogs and snails for France,
>> rats(egesengi) to feed Kisii and Giriama;we can also try Chinese food(Chau
>> chau)etc.
>> MOTURI
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 18:59 BST Maurice Oduor wrote:
>>
>>Evans/Moturi,
>>
>>What a community of people eat can always be traced to the history of
>>those people in terms of the scarcity of food that they have faced in
>>the past and what was available. The Makonde of Southern Tanzania and
>>northern Mozambique eat human flesh and don't bury their dead, they
>>eat the bodies. There was a time when they faced such drought and
>>war-related adversities that the only thing available to eat were dead
>>humans. It then became normal over the years.
>>There was a plane that crashed high up in the Andes in South America
>>and luckily some passengers survived. The place was freezing with
>>winter temperatures and no human settlements in sight. The surviving
>>passengers starved for more than a week and finally in desperation
>>started eating the bodies of their dead fellow passengers, raw!!! One
>>guy offfered to go seek help and was given a bag full of human flesh
>>to eat as he travelled by foot for days to go get help.
>>
>>The point here is that humans are capable of eating anything depending
>>on circumstances.
>>
>>Courage
>>
>>
>>On 9/15/12, samuel moturi <samoturiy@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Evans,
>>> YOU have done a good Job. We have Food Technologists and Scientists in
>>> Kenya
>>> who have no idea of what you said. The UN in its wisdom says food is food
>>> so
>>> long as it is CULTURALLY acceptable to the people concerned.Githae was
>>> correct 100 per cent.He was saying reconcile your attidudes,prejudices
>>> and
>>> backward habits:the Chinese eat dogs, Taiwanese eat snakes,the bukinabe
>>> eat
>>> cats, the Kisii eat rats(Egesengi) and cats(Egesusu),Turkana eat donkey
>>> ,the
>>> french ear snails and frogs etc. So with our cultural prejudices we deny
>>> ourselves food and starve. WHAT A SHAME!
>>> MOTURI
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 17:32 BST Evans MACHERA wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Once upon a time,Hon.Njeru Githae remarked that we can dish on rodents in
>>> a
>>> food scarcity debate in the country.He was filified and the hunger bite
>>> persisted.
>>>
>>>TV Reports in the last two weeks have have it that donkeys that went
>>> missing from water venders were found slaughtered in Nakuru and Naivasha
>>> possibly supplied to food joints in the environs as well as in Nairobi.
>>> Such has not been once,neither twice nor three or four times.
>>>
>>>Rather than condemn or filify a discussant,perhaps medics and in
>>> particular
>>> veterinary officers can help us on the edibleness of such stuff in our
>>> feeding that we most likely do unkowingly as we debate.
>>>
>>>Yaani kukula nyama ya panya na punda ni vibaya!
>>>
>>>Different backgrounds inform different feeding habits.
>>>
>>>Religion is part of a determinant,but when hunger bites,even dogs make a
>>> dish as past News Reports have had to report.
>>>
>>>
>>>All Food Preparation
>>>
>>>
>>> Religious Criteria of Food
>>>Religious Criteria
>>>Religion is another important influence on food choices. Religious tenets
>>> affect the diets of many by declaring which foods are acceptable and
>>> unacceptable and by specifying preparation procedures. By designating
>>> certain foods for specific occasions and assigning symbolic value to
>>> some,
>>> religious principles wield further influence. A traditional holiday meal
>>> with a turkey or ham as the main entree is usually served at Christmas
>>> and/or Easter. Until recently, Friday was fish day for many Catholics.
>>> Some food practices of Buddhists, Hindus, Seventh-Day Adventists,
>>> Mormons,
>>> Jews, and Muslims are explored in further detail below.
>>>
>>>Buddhism
>>>There are over 100 million Buddhists in China and 300 million worldwide.
>>> Buddhists believe in karuna, which is compassion, and karma, a concept
>>> that implies that "good is rewarded with good; evil is rewarded with
>>> evil;
>>> and the rewarding of good and evil is only a matter of time". Many
>>> Buddhists consider it uncompassionate to eat the flesh of another living
>>> creature, so vegetarianism is the ideal.
>>>
>>>Hinduism
>>>Hinduism also promotes vegetarianism among some, but not all, of its
>>> followers. Some Hindus believe that the soul is all-important, uniting
>>> all
>>> beings, so it is against their beliefs to injure or kill an animal. Thus
>>> strict Hindus reject poulny, eggs, and the flesh of any animal. Among
>>> many
>>> Hindus, the cow is considered sacred and is not slaughtered for food.
>>> Coconut and ghee, or clarified butter, are also accorded sacred status,
>>> but may be consumed after a fast. Some strict Hindus do not eat garlic,
>>> onions, mushrooms, turnips, lentils, or tomatoes.
>>>
>>>Seventh-Day Adventist Church
>>>A vegetarian diet is recommended but not required for members of the
>>> Seventh-Day Adventist Church. About 40 percent of the members are
>>> vegetarians, the majority of them lacto-ovo-vegetarians, meaning that
>>> milk
>>> and egg products are allowed. Hot spices, between-meal snacks, and
>>> alcohol, tea, and coffee consumption are discouraged.
>>>
>>>Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons)
>>>The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints supports vegetarianism
>>> and
>>> discourages the use of alcohol as well as tea, coffee, or any other
>>> caffeinated drink. A significant number of Mormons live in Utah, and
>>> several studies have shown that the death rate attributed to specific
>>> diseases for Utah residents is 40 percent below the average rate because
>>> of lower rates of heart disease and cancer. Other religious factors
>>> possibly affecting the death rate are the discouragement of smoking, and
>>> the recommendations of regular physical activity and proper sleep. The
>>> lower fat content of some vegetarian diets also cannot be ignored as a
>>> possible contributing factor.
>>>
>>>Judaism
>>>The kashruth is the list of dietary laws adhered to by orthodox Jews.
>>> Foods
>>> are sorted into one of three groups: meat, dairy, or pareve (containing
>>> neither meat nor dairy). Milk and meat cannot be prepared together or
>>> consumed in the same meal. In fact, separate sets of dishes and utensils
>>> are used to prepare and serve them, and a specified amount of time must
>>> pass between the consumption of milk and meat. Foods considered kosher
>>> include fruits, vegetables, grain products, and with some exceptions
>>> during Passover, tea, coffee, and dairy products froth kosher animals as
>>> long as they are not eaten simultaneously with meat or fowl. Kosher
>>> animals are ruminants, such as cattle, sheep, and goats, that have split
>>> hooves and chew their cud. Orthodox Jews are not allowed to eat
>>> carnivorous animals, birds of prey, pork (bacon, ham), fish without
>>> scales
>>> or fins (shark, eel, and shellfish such as shrimp, lobster, and crab),
>>> sturgeon, catfish, swordfish, underwater
>>> mammals, reptiles, or egg yolk containing any blood. Other meats that
>>> are
>>> considered kosher are chicken, turkey, goose, and certain duck. The meat
>>> from even the allowed animals is not considered kosher, however, unless
>>> they have been slaughtered under the supervision of a rabbi or other
>>> authorized individual who ensures that the blood has been properly
>>> removed. Foods that are tainted with blood, a substance considered by
>>> Jews
>>> to be synonymous with life, are forbidden.
>>>Kosher foods are labeled with a logo such as those of the
>>> kosher-certifying
>>> agencies. People other than Jews who often purchase kosher foods include
>>> Moslems, Seventh-Day Adventists, vegetarians, individuals with allergies
>>> (shellfish) or food intolerances (milk), and anyone who perceives kosher
>>> foods as being of higher quality.
>>>Food figures prominently in the celebration of the major Jewish holidays.
>>> Rosh Hashanah, the Jewish New Year, is celebrated in part with a large
>>> meal. Yom Kippur, or the Day of Atonement, requires a day of fasting
>>> preceded by a bland evening meal the night before. Passover, which is an
>>> eight-day celebration marking the exodus from Egypt, is commemorated in
>>> part by a meal whose components represent different aspects of the
>>> historic event.
>>>Islam
>>>The Koran, the divine book of Islam, contains the food laws recommended
>>> for
>>> Muslims. Kosher meat is allowed because it has been slaughtered in a
>>> manner that allows the blood to be fully drained. Most meats are allowed
>>> except pork, carnivorous animals with fangs (lions, wolves, tigers,
>>> dogs,
>>> etc.), birds with sharp claws (falcons, eagles, owls, vultures, etc.),
>>> land animals without ears (frogs, snakes, etc.), and products containing
>>> gelatin made from the horns or hooves of cattle. Alcohol and products
>>> containing alcohol in any form, including vanillin, are forbidden.
>>> Stimulants such as tea and coffee are also discouraged.
>>>Ramadan is a time of the year that significantly affects diet for
>>> Muslims.
>>> Islam teaches that the ninth month of the lunar calendar is the month in
>>> which the Prophet Muhammad received the revelation of the Muslim
>>> scripture, the Koran. This month, which usually begins February 1 or 2,
>>> depending on the sighting of the new moon, is a time of religious
>>> observances that include fasting from dawn to sunset.
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