Integrity is not limited to the honourables who wants a stab at the presidency or other electable/appointment positions,but the day to day engagements u do with your neighbour/friends or a people in a place.
Serious people who have demonstrated some kind of trust can gang up to do something good - there is potentiality though not taken seriously perhaps due to prejudices or just failure to try or engage.
A research on a business with performance contract for the employed is key here given the financiers (banks) are salivating for you.
Evans MACHERA.
From: "modhiambos@yahoo.com" <modhiambos@yahoo.com>
To: progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com
Cc: shemochuodho@yahoo.com; Charles Kimaiga <ckimaiga@yahoo.com>; "wams2006@gmail.com" <wams2006@gmail.com>; forum <wanakenya@googlegroups.com>; kol <kenyaonline@yahoogroups.com>; the last word to kenya <thelastwordtokenya@yahoogroups.com>; "uchaguzionline@yahoogroups.com" <uchaguzionline@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 9, 2012 7:07 PM
Subject: Re: [PK] Re: Kenya Diaspora Alliance Investment ltd
I will tell you what some couples from America have done.
They purchased land in Shanzu, got a financier to build a resort and people bought apartments. Now they are managers for the persons who bought the apartments. They are the directors of the resort but don't own the apartments. They are doing very well. The resort goes by the name Pangoni.
With a convention center set to be built in Mombasa, there will be a high demand for beds.
Try that.
Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Zain Kenya
-----Original Message-----
From: Maurice Oduor <mauricejoduor@gmail.com>
Sender: progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com
Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 09:58:37
To: <progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com>
Reply-To: progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com
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Subject: Re: [PK] Re: Kenya Diaspora Alliance Investment ltd
Moturi,
First you register a company name with trusted people as Directors.
then you prepare a Draft Agreement to be entered into with every
investor.
I have now talked to a few Kenyans in Canada about this and the
overwhelming response is that they will only deal in signed a nd
legal Agreements and not handshakes. They have been burned too many
times in the past.
Take yours truly: in the past one year alone I have lost a substatial
amount of money by trusting partners on investments. I'm scared
stiff. In that time alone, In the last R0 yrs alone, I have lost over
20 million shillings by trusting people back home.
Courage
On 9/9/12, samoturiy@yahoo.co.uk <samoturiy@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> We go!tomorrow, I will look for the Ochuodho group that has gone to court as
> KDA.Then we move.
> Sent from my BlackBerry®
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Maurice Oduor <mauricejoduor@gmail.com>
> Sender: progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com
> Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 08:13:51
> To: <samoturiy@yahoo.co.uk>
> Reply-To: progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com
> Cc:
> progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com<progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com>;
> <shemochuodho@yahoo.com>; Charles Kimaiga<ckimaiga@yahoo.com>;
> wams2006@gmail.com<wams2006@gmail.com>; forum<wanakenya@googlegroups.com>;
> kol<kenyaonline@yahoogroups.com>; the last word to
> kenya<thelastwordtokenya@yahoogroups.com>;
> uchaguzionline@yahoogroups.com<uchaguzionline@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [PK] Re: Kenya Diaspora Alliance Investment ltd
>
> Sam,
>
> in my experience, this sort of initiative requires some behind the
> scenes work. First, we approach individuals privately, one by one.
> Once we get a critical mass, then we go public. Let us start that.
>
> Courage
>
>
>
> On 9/9/12, samoturiy@yahoo.co.uk <samoturiy@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> MO
>> Let us talk about the Investment now.On your marks, Get Set,Go...
>> What do we do?
>> Moturi
>> Sent from my BlackBerry®
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Maurice Oduor <mauricejoduor@gmail.com>
>> Sender: progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com
>> Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 07:41:45
>> To: <progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com>
>> Reply-To: progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com
>> Cc: forum<wanakenya@googlegroups.com>; kol<kenyaonline@yahoogroups.com>;
>> uchunguzi online<uchunguzionline@yahoogroups.com>; the last word to
>> kenya<thelastwordtokenya@yahoogroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: [KOL] Re: [PK] WHY MILLICENT ODHIAMBO CANT COUNT ON LUO VOTE
>> IN
>> MOMBASA
>>
>> Moturi,
>>
>> I know this is not important but I'm just not seeing this expression
>> that you are talking about.
>>
>> Courage
>>
>>
>>
>> On 9/9/12, samoturiy@yahoo.co.uk <samoturiy@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>> In this same thread from Tom today where he disputes that you brought up
>>> PK
>>> there is a para in Kijaluo kali
>>> Sent from my BlackBerry®
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Maurice Oduor <mauricejoduor@gmail.com>
>>> Sender: progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com
>>> Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 06:10:23
>>> To: <progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com>
>>> Reply-To: progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com
>>> Cc: forum<wanakenya@googlegroups.com>; kol<kenyaonline@yahoogroups.com>;
>>> uchunguzi online<uchunguzionline@yahoogroups.com>; the last word to
>>> kenya<thelastwordtokenya@yahoogroups.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [KOL] Re: [PK] WHY MILLICENT ODHIAMBO CANT COUNT ON LUO
>>> VOTE
>>> IN
>>> MOMBASA
>>>
>>> Moturi,
>>>
>>> You're gonna have to show me which posting you are referring to. I
>>> don't see the expression. It might have been used in a certain context
>>> or is just a typo.
>>>
>>> Courage
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/9/12, samoturiy@yahoo.co.uk <samoturiy@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> The other one' Ng'at ma Otual ..
>>>> Moturi.
>>>> Sent from my BlackBerry®
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Maurice Oduor <mauricejoduor@gmail.com>
>>>> Sender: progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com
>>>> Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 05:46:30
>>>> To: <progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Reply-To: progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com
>>>> Cc: forum<wanakenya@googlegroups.com>;
>>>> kol<kenyaonline@yahoogroups.com>;
>>>> uchunguzi online<uchunguzionline@yahoogroups.com>; the last word to
>>>> kenya<thelastwordtokenya@yahoogroups.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [KOL] Re: [PK] WHY MILLICENT ODHIAMBO CANT COUNT ON LUO
>>>> VOTE
>>>> IN
>>>> MOMBASA
>>>>
>>>> Moturi,
>>>>
>>>> Ero anyisi ka ji winjo is a famous Luo expression which literally means
>>>> :
>>>>
>>>> 'There, I'm telling you this infront of people'
>>>>
>>>> It means, that I'm telling you this publicly.
>>>>
>>>> Courage
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 9/8/12, samoturiy@yahoo.co.uk <samoturiy@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>> What is the translation of the last para?
>>>>> Sent from my BlackBerry®
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: tomoreje@gmail.com
>>>>> Sender: progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 02:52:58
>>>>> To: <wanakenya@googlegroups.com>; <kenyaonline@yahoogroups.com>
>>>>> Reply-To: progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Cc: <progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com>; uchunguzi
>>>>> online<uchunguzionline@yahoogroups.com>; the last word to
>>>>> kenya<thelastwordtokenya@yahoogroups.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [KOL] Re: [PK] WHY MILLICENT ODHIAMBO CANT COUNT ON LUO
>>>>> VOTE
>>>>> IN
>>>>> MOMBASA
>>>>>
>>>>> Oduor,
>>>>>
>>>>> Am not 'manufacturing' any enmity with you. I simply hate what you're
>>>>> doing,
>>>>> that is, bringing in Luos to your every other fights with anyone.
>>>>> That's
>>>>> what you're not getting.
>>>>>
>>>>> I won't mind if you air anything private about me, but if you do, I
>>>>> will
>>>>> simply ignore you. That's the best medicine of which we're prescribing
>>>>> to
>>>>> you and have refused to take, am forcing it down your throat.
>>>>>
>>>>> You 'brought' PK to where it is, so what? Even Jomo was instrumental
>>>>> in
>>>>> bringing independence to kenya but still remained the most corrupt
>>>>> ever.
>>>>> My
>>>>> point is I don't give a hoot whatever you did to PK.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please, show me anywhere Warsama abused Luos which has no connection
>>>>> with
>>>>> you and I will show you where you insulted his mom and his tribe
>>>>> somali
>>>>> (try
>>>>> me Oduor, try me)
>>>>>
>>>>> Ng'at ma Otual, ikwero wach winjo, ok in dhiang' ichogi satee. IKWODO
>>>>> wijii
>>>>> kae wuod Alego. Isiko, in ng'at mosomo, idhawo gi ng'ama ok nitie e
>>>>> tieng'
>>>>> mari, mano fuwo ma ligangla. Bed ngat man gi winjo. Akweri ewang'i,
>>>>> nikech
>>>>> wanie achiel kodi, kendo kajii winjo. In imiyo ji duto paro ni kar
>>>>> buthwa
>>>>> ma
>>>>> wanaling'ne en mana gi jii matimore magalagala ka in.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lok pachi thura, kendo ahinya. Tinda, ok ana achak alos kodi ewachni
>>>>> ni
>>>>> kech
>>>>> ilewochunya.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bah!
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Maurice Oduor <mauricejoduor@gmail.com>
>>>>> Sender: wanakenya@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 16:39:37
>>>>> To: <kenyaonline@yahoogroups.com>
>>>>> Reply-To: wanakenya@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Cc: <wanakenya@googlegroups.com>;
>>>>> <progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com>;
>>>>> uchunguzi online<uchunguzionline@yahoogroups.com>; the last word to
>>>>> kenya<thelastwordtokenya@yahoogroups.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [KOL] Re: [PK] WHY MILLICENT ODHIAMBO CANT COUNT ON LUO
>>>>> VOTE
>>>>> IN
>>>>> MOMBASA
>>>>>
>>>>> Oreje,
>>>>>
>>>>> You have become very cocky since you started Moderating PK. I'm happy
>>>>> for you. I'm the one who managed this PK and brought it to where it is
>>>>> now as the #1 forum around. Infact the changes I made on it forced
>>>>> Vugu Vugu to follow suit otherwise VV was dying. Please just enjoy it
>>>>> and stop the fake enemty with me. I'm not interested in a fight with
>>>>> you. My fight was with Warsama for all the dirty deeds he executed
>>>>> here. You and I have communicated privately a few times and chatted on
>>>>> line several times and we told each other personal things. How would
>>>>> you like it if I were to be so poorly-mannered as to air the things
>>>>> that you told me about yourself that are private? What if on top of
>>>>> that I start disparaging your clan? Would you take the same approach
>>>>> as the one you're asking me to take with Warsama? To just shut up? I
>>>>> think not.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's true the gratitude of a punda is mateke. You seem to be trying
>>>>> your best to manufacture enemity with me for some reason best known to
>>>>> you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ero anyisi ka ji winjo.
>>>>>
>>>>> Courage
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9/8/12, tomoreje@gmail.com <tomoreje@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Oduor,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You're a liar and a big one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please note that you're not that older than some of us and in fact I
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> got more experience in life than you to and extent of warning you to
>>>>>> stop
>>>>>> your nonsense.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You sit your ass pretty in Canada, engaging in extreme tribalism and
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> expect us to join you in that? When the tide of tribal hatred which
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> started while engaging Warsama turns against us, you'll be safe, what
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> US?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's why I said that some of you who aren't Kenyan citizens
>>>>>> shouldn't
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> engaging in any discussion Kenyan.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I now understand why you were thrown out forums.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers.
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Maurice Oduor <mauricejoduor@gmail.com>
>>>>>> Sender: wanakenya@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 15:01:15
>>>>>> To: <progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>> Reply-To: wanakenya@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Cc: uchunguzi online<uchunguzionline@yahoogroups.com>;
>>>>>> changemombasa2012@yahoogroups.com<changemombasa2012@yahoogroups.com>;
>>>>>> KOL<kenyaonline@yahoogroups.com>;
>>>>>> wanakenya@googlegroups.com<wanakenya@googlegroups.com>; the last word
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> kenya<thelastwordtokenya@yahoogroups.com>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [PK] WHY MILLICENT ODHIAMBO CANT COUNT ON LUO VOTE IN
>>>>>> MOMBASA
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Livie,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Warsama is some ritired 'journalist' who has deep hatred for Luos.
>>>>>> But
>>>>>> please don't say so publicly because if you do, you will be attacked
>>>>>> savagely by fellow Luos defending him. I think he put something in
>>>>>> their water.
>>>>>> Imagine someone keeps disparaging your community yet you defend him
>>>>>> and reprimand those who tell him off !!! But then again, we're
>>>>>> dealing
>>>>>> with young Luos who have no experience with life and probably have no
>>>>>> clue what damage Warsama is inflicting.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Courage
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/8/12, oliviaomulo@gmail.com <oliviaomulo@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Yawa ! Who is this man Warsama?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my BlackBerry®
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: mohamed warsama <mhmdwarsama@yahoo.com>
>>>>>>> Sender: progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>> Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 11:39:02
>>>>>>> To: uchunguzi online<uchunguzionline@yahoogroups.com>;
>>>>>>> changemombasa2012@yahoogroups.com<changemombasa2012@yahoogroups.com>;
>>>>>>> KOL<kenyaonline@yahoogroups.com>;
>>>>>>> progressive-kenyans<progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com>;
>>>>>>> wanakenya@googlegroups.com<wanakenya@googlegroups.com>; the last
>>>>>>> word
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> kenya<thelastwordtokenya@yahoogroups.com>
>>>>>>> Reply-To: progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>> Subject: [PK] WHY MILLICENT ODHIAMBO CANT COUNT ON LUO VOTE IN
>>>>>>> MOMBASA
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I ran into Odhiambo Mak-Adudu Basi at the bus terminal in Nairobi.
>>>>>>> He
>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> his way to Mombasa to register as a voter. I asked him if he
>>>>>>> intended
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> vote for Millicent Odhiambo for County Governor.
>>>>>>> He: She can't make it. She is a Nyasembo from Asembo.
>>>>>>> Me: I thought Luos were Luos.
>>>>>>> He: Only when voting for Raila.
>>>>>>> Me: Where do you come from then ?
>>>>>>> He: I come from Nyando.
>>>>>>> Me: Like Miguna ?
>>>>>>> He: Right. I like Miguna. How about you ?
>>>>>>> Me: My friend Miguna. Does Millicent stand a chance ?
>>>>>>> He: No. She is pro-Ugenya and Luos dont like some people from Ugenya
>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>> live abroad.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mohamed Warsama
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Serious people who have demonstrated some kind of trust can gang up to do something good - there is potentiality though not taken seriously perhaps due to prejudices or just failure to try or engage.
A research on a business with performance contract for the employed is key here given the financiers (banks) are salivating for you.
Evans MACHERA.
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Sent: Sunday, September 9, 2012 7:07 PM
Subject: Re: [PK] Re: Kenya Diaspora Alliance Investment ltd
I will tell you what some couples from America have done.
They purchased land in Shanzu, got a financier to build a resort and people bought apartments. Now they are managers for the persons who bought the apartments. They are the directors of the resort but don't own the apartments. They are doing very well. The resort goes by the name Pangoni.
With a convention center set to be built in Mombasa, there will be a high demand for beds.
Try that.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Maurice Oduor <mauricejoduor@gmail.com>
Sender: progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com
Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 09:58:37
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Subject: Re: [PK] Re: Kenya Diaspora Alliance Investment ltd
Moturi,
First you register a company name with trusted people as Directors.
then you prepare a Draft Agreement to be entered into with every
investor.
I have now talked to a few Kenyans in Canada about this and the
overwhelming response is that they will only deal in signed a nd
legal Agreements and not handshakes. They have been burned too many
times in the past.
Take yours truly: in the past one year alone I have lost a substatial
amount of money by trusting partners on investments. I'm scared
stiff. In that time alone, In the last R0 yrs alone, I have lost over
20 million shillings by trusting people back home.
Courage
On 9/9/12, samoturiy@yahoo.co.uk <samoturiy@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> We go!tomorrow, I will look for the Ochuodho group that has gone to court as
> KDA.Then we move.
> Sent from my BlackBerry®
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Maurice Oduor <mauricejoduor@gmail.com>
> Sender: progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com
> Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 08:13:51
> To: <samoturiy@yahoo.co.uk>
> Reply-To: progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com
> Cc:
> progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com<progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com>;
> <shemochuodho@yahoo.com>; Charles Kimaiga<ckimaiga@yahoo.com>;
> wams2006@gmail.com<wams2006@gmail.com>; forum<wanakenya@googlegroups.com>;
> kol<kenyaonline@yahoogroups.com>; the last word to
> kenya<thelastwordtokenya@yahoogroups.com>;
> uchaguzionline@yahoogroups.com<uchaguzionline@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [PK] Re: Kenya Diaspora Alliance Investment ltd
>
> Sam,
>
> in my experience, this sort of initiative requires some behind the
> scenes work. First, we approach individuals privately, one by one.
> Once we get a critical mass, then we go public. Let us start that.
>
> Courage
>
>
>
> On 9/9/12, samoturiy@yahoo.co.uk <samoturiy@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> MO
>> Let us talk about the Investment now.On your marks, Get Set,Go...
>> What do we do?
>> Moturi
>> Sent from my BlackBerry®
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Maurice Oduor <mauricejoduor@gmail.com>
>> Sender: progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com
>> Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 07:41:45
>> To: <progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com>
>> Reply-To: progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com
>> Cc: forum<wanakenya@googlegroups.com>; kol<kenyaonline@yahoogroups.com>;
>> uchunguzi online<uchunguzionline@yahoogroups.com>; the last word to
>> kenya<thelastwordtokenya@yahoogroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: [KOL] Re: [PK] WHY MILLICENT ODHIAMBO CANT COUNT ON LUO VOTE
>> IN
>> MOMBASA
>>
>> Moturi,
>>
>> I know this is not important but I'm just not seeing this expression
>> that you are talking about.
>>
>> Courage
>>
>>
>>
>> On 9/9/12, samoturiy@yahoo.co.uk <samoturiy@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>> In this same thread from Tom today where he disputes that you brought up
>>> PK
>>> there is a para in Kijaluo kali
>>> Sent from my BlackBerry®
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Maurice Oduor <mauricejoduor@gmail.com>
>>> Sender: progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com
>>> Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 06:10:23
>>> To: <progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com>
>>> Reply-To: progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com
>>> Cc: forum<wanakenya@googlegroups.com>; kol<kenyaonline@yahoogroups.com>;
>>> uchunguzi online<uchunguzionline@yahoogroups.com>; the last word to
>>> kenya<thelastwordtokenya@yahoogroups.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [KOL] Re: [PK] WHY MILLICENT ODHIAMBO CANT COUNT ON LUO
>>> VOTE
>>> IN
>>> MOMBASA
>>>
>>> Moturi,
>>>
>>> You're gonna have to show me which posting you are referring to. I
>>> don't see the expression. It might have been used in a certain context
>>> or is just a typo.
>>>
>>> Courage
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/9/12, samoturiy@yahoo.co.uk <samoturiy@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> The other one' Ng'at ma Otual ..
>>>> Moturi.
>>>> Sent from my BlackBerry®
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Maurice Oduor <mauricejoduor@gmail.com>
>>>> Sender: progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com
>>>> Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 05:46:30
>>>> To: <progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Reply-To: progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com
>>>> Cc: forum<wanakenya@googlegroups.com>;
>>>> kol<kenyaonline@yahoogroups.com>;
>>>> uchunguzi online<uchunguzionline@yahoogroups.com>; the last word to
>>>> kenya<thelastwordtokenya@yahoogroups.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [KOL] Re: [PK] WHY MILLICENT ODHIAMBO CANT COUNT ON LUO
>>>> VOTE
>>>> IN
>>>> MOMBASA
>>>>
>>>> Moturi,
>>>>
>>>> Ero anyisi ka ji winjo is a famous Luo expression which literally means
>>>> :
>>>>
>>>> 'There, I'm telling you this infront of people'
>>>>
>>>> It means, that I'm telling you this publicly.
>>>>
>>>> Courage
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 9/8/12, samoturiy@yahoo.co.uk <samoturiy@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>> What is the translation of the last para?
>>>>> Sent from my BlackBerry®
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: tomoreje@gmail.com
>>>>> Sender: progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 02:52:58
>>>>> To: <wanakenya@googlegroups.com>; <kenyaonline@yahoogroups.com>
>>>>> Reply-To: progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Cc: <progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com>; uchunguzi
>>>>> online<uchunguzionline@yahoogroups.com>; the last word to
>>>>> kenya<thelastwordtokenya@yahoogroups.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [KOL] Re: [PK] WHY MILLICENT ODHIAMBO CANT COUNT ON LUO
>>>>> VOTE
>>>>> IN
>>>>> MOMBASA
>>>>>
>>>>> Oduor,
>>>>>
>>>>> Am not 'manufacturing' any enmity with you. I simply hate what you're
>>>>> doing,
>>>>> that is, bringing in Luos to your every other fights with anyone.
>>>>> That's
>>>>> what you're not getting.
>>>>>
>>>>> I won't mind if you air anything private about me, but if you do, I
>>>>> will
>>>>> simply ignore you. That's the best medicine of which we're prescribing
>>>>> to
>>>>> you and have refused to take, am forcing it down your throat.
>>>>>
>>>>> You 'brought' PK to where it is, so what? Even Jomo was instrumental
>>>>> in
>>>>> bringing independence to kenya but still remained the most corrupt
>>>>> ever.
>>>>> My
>>>>> point is I don't give a hoot whatever you did to PK.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please, show me anywhere Warsama abused Luos which has no connection
>>>>> with
>>>>> you and I will show you where you insulted his mom and his tribe
>>>>> somali
>>>>> (try
>>>>> me Oduor, try me)
>>>>>
>>>>> Ng'at ma Otual, ikwero wach winjo, ok in dhiang' ichogi satee. IKWODO
>>>>> wijii
>>>>> kae wuod Alego. Isiko, in ng'at mosomo, idhawo gi ng'ama ok nitie e
>>>>> tieng'
>>>>> mari, mano fuwo ma ligangla. Bed ngat man gi winjo. Akweri ewang'i,
>>>>> nikech
>>>>> wanie achiel kodi, kendo kajii winjo. In imiyo ji duto paro ni kar
>>>>> buthwa
>>>>> ma
>>>>> wanaling'ne en mana gi jii matimore magalagala ka in.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lok pachi thura, kendo ahinya. Tinda, ok ana achak alos kodi ewachni
>>>>> ni
>>>>> kech
>>>>> ilewochunya.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bah!
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Maurice Oduor <mauricejoduor@gmail.com>
>>>>> Sender: wanakenya@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 16:39:37
>>>>> To: <kenyaonline@yahoogroups.com>
>>>>> Reply-To: wanakenya@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Cc: <wanakenya@googlegroups.com>;
>>>>> <progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com>;
>>>>> uchunguzi online<uchunguzionline@yahoogroups.com>; the last word to
>>>>> kenya<thelastwordtokenya@yahoogroups.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [KOL] Re: [PK] WHY MILLICENT ODHIAMBO CANT COUNT ON LUO
>>>>> VOTE
>>>>> IN
>>>>> MOMBASA
>>>>>
>>>>> Oreje,
>>>>>
>>>>> You have become very cocky since you started Moderating PK. I'm happy
>>>>> for you. I'm the one who managed this PK and brought it to where it is
>>>>> now as the #1 forum around. Infact the changes I made on it forced
>>>>> Vugu Vugu to follow suit otherwise VV was dying. Please just enjoy it
>>>>> and stop the fake enemty with me. I'm not interested in a fight with
>>>>> you. My fight was with Warsama for all the dirty deeds he executed
>>>>> here. You and I have communicated privately a few times and chatted on
>>>>> line several times and we told each other personal things. How would
>>>>> you like it if I were to be so poorly-mannered as to air the things
>>>>> that you told me about yourself that are private? What if on top of
>>>>> that I start disparaging your clan? Would you take the same approach
>>>>> as the one you're asking me to take with Warsama? To just shut up? I
>>>>> think not.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's true the gratitude of a punda is mateke. You seem to be trying
>>>>> your best to manufacture enemity with me for some reason best known to
>>>>> you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ero anyisi ka ji winjo.
>>>>>
>>>>> Courage
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9/8/12, tomoreje@gmail.com <tomoreje@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Oduor,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You're a liar and a big one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please note that you're not that older than some of us and in fact I
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> got more experience in life than you to and extent of warning you to
>>>>>> stop
>>>>>> your nonsense.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You sit your ass pretty in Canada, engaging in extreme tribalism and
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> expect us to join you in that? When the tide of tribal hatred which
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> started while engaging Warsama turns against us, you'll be safe, what
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> US?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's why I said that some of you who aren't Kenyan citizens
>>>>>> shouldn't
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> engaging in any discussion Kenyan.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I now understand why you were thrown out forums.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers.
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Maurice Oduor <mauricejoduor@gmail.com>
>>>>>> Sender: wanakenya@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 15:01:15
>>>>>> To: <progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>> Reply-To: wanakenya@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Cc: uchunguzi online<uchunguzionline@yahoogroups.com>;
>>>>>> changemombasa2012@yahoogroups.com<changemombasa2012@yahoogroups.com>;
>>>>>> KOL<kenyaonline@yahoogroups.com>;
>>>>>> wanakenya@googlegroups.com<wanakenya@googlegroups.com>; the last word
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> kenya<thelastwordtokenya@yahoogroups.com>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [PK] WHY MILLICENT ODHIAMBO CANT COUNT ON LUO VOTE IN
>>>>>> MOMBASA
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Livie,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Warsama is some ritired 'journalist' who has deep hatred for Luos.
>>>>>> But
>>>>>> please don't say so publicly because if you do, you will be attacked
>>>>>> savagely by fellow Luos defending him. I think he put something in
>>>>>> their water.
>>>>>> Imagine someone keeps disparaging your community yet you defend him
>>>>>> and reprimand those who tell him off !!! But then again, we're
>>>>>> dealing
>>>>>> with young Luos who have no experience with life and probably have no
>>>>>> clue what damage Warsama is inflicting.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Courage
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/8/12, oliviaomulo@gmail.com <oliviaomulo@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Yawa ! Who is this man Warsama?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my BlackBerry®
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: mohamed warsama <mhmdwarsama@yahoo.com>
>>>>>>> Sender: progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>> Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 11:39:02
>>>>>>> To: uchunguzi online<uchunguzionline@yahoogroups.com>;
>>>>>>> changemombasa2012@yahoogroups.com<changemombasa2012@yahoogroups.com>;
>>>>>>> KOL<kenyaonline@yahoogroups.com>;
>>>>>>> progressive-kenyans<progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com>;
>>>>>>> wanakenya@googlegroups.com<wanakenya@googlegroups.com>; the last
>>>>>>> word
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> kenya<thelastwordtokenya@yahoogroups.com>
>>>>>>> Reply-To: progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>> Subject: [PK] WHY MILLICENT ODHIAMBO CANT COUNT ON LUO VOTE IN
>>>>>>> MOMBASA
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I ran into Odhiambo Mak-Adudu Basi at the bus terminal in Nairobi.
>>>>>>> He
>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> his way to Mombasa to register as a voter. I asked him if he
>>>>>>> intended
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> vote for Millicent Odhiambo for County Governor.
>>>>>>> He: She can't make it. She is a Nyasembo from Asembo.
>>>>>>> Me: I thought Luos were Luos.
>>>>>>> He: Only when voting for Raila.
>>>>>>> Me: Where do you come from then ?
>>>>>>> He: I come from Nyando.
>>>>>>> Me: Like Miguna ?
>>>>>>> He: Right. I like Miguna. How about you ?
>>>>>>> Me: My friend Miguna. Does Millicent stand a chance ?
>>>>>>> He: No. She is pro-Ugenya and Luos dont like some people from Ugenya
>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>> live abroad.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mohamed Warsama
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