On 25 September 2012 08:46, Paul Nyandoto <oderogarma@gmail.com> wrote:
Jagem;
You have made it crystal clear. You know I have learnt all these
things long time ago that is why I will still stick with RAO in 2013
election. I saw MM`s book and concluded that if medical books were
also written like that, doctors would be saving nobody on earth here
today. Then I saw Jeff with his 24 thing; gos what aday. Then when you
read all the anti RAO and anti ODM in this forum even from those with
big english grammar and degrees you just say few words: God never gave
them wisdom, some are walking with empty skulls.
As I said in order of my presidential preference RAILA will be no.1 in
2013 election, followed by Uhuru Kenyatta incase Raila does not make
it. I have decided to go forward, but if going forward is impossible
then I will have to go right side. But not left side driving system we
have been doing since 1963.
On 9/24/12, Jagem K'Onyiego <jairuschurch@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Maurice,
>
> Why are you sounding so emotional with Wa Mwangi? When it comes to politics,
> you must realize that Wa mwangi is just doing his job. Else the Paycheck
> will disappear. Socially he is a real good man with a large heart.
>
> You see, there are only about 150 days to 2013 elections. And the only party
> which seems to be organized is one that is led by RAO, the party ODM. Well
> if you have followed these other phantom Parties closely, TNA included,
> nothing seems to be going right. At this moment in time, there is war
> between the Long Haired Professor's State house luminaries who hatched the
> "Project Mudavadi" idea, going against the those impunity Barons of UK. It
> is degenerating into a bitter macho fight.
>
> UK recently stormed State House and demanded to know why some operatives
> from there are fighting against him? He was told by Baba Jimmy that he
> needed to chill to "Leave this thing for Mudavadi". But that only churned
> UK's stomach. It is said he was surprised beyond comprehension. Eti he steps
> down for MM. Hi was clear that he will not step down for nobody. He said
> that let whoever wants to be Presso fight for it, and let the best man win.
> After this confrontation, Ohuru went on a Western Kenya tour. On that tour,
> he was heard for the first time acknowledging the presence of Rao as a
> person who is worthy of competing as a presidential candidate. The Ground
> had shifted. You remember sometime back I used to warn folks to "Sit Slowly
> and watch events unfolding"? Ohuru's Nyanza tour was one of them events.
>
> While you are absorbing that, you need to know this, that the Cauldron,
> which is the house on the Hills, is having bones boiling and the ones that
> are ready, are having people picking them real fast. Ear to the wall
> confirms to me that, while Wamboi has expressed her desire to stand for
> Othaya in 2013 and Baba Jimmy has okeyed it, Lucy has picked that bone and
> is saying that Wamboi will "onry stad" over her dead body. She has therefore
> dispatched Jimmy to go to Uhuru so that Jimmy can stand on a TNA ticket to
> oppose Wabui.
>
> As you can see "Uhoro ni Njogu" (things are elephant). It requires tact and
> money, colossal sums of it, to make things work right. It is that reason
> which causes people to be angry with ODM. They are gonna try all they can
> to destabilize it even if it means going dirty the way they sent Miguna to
> do the dirty work.
>
> Have you realized that Miguna's work was meant to tear down the Character of
> Shebesh and many other people? This has made Hon Shebesh do an about turn. I
> understand her family was accosted by some Henchmen from TNA, where she was
> asked as to what she was still doing promoting the Party of "Kihiis". She
> was then given an ultimatum to decamp or face dire consequences. So, Shebesh
> had no option but to leave. She has to think of the safety of her Family you
> know.
>
> Ear to the wall also confirms to me that, Miguna and Tuju were secretly
> informed of plans afoot about their lives. The situation was getting soo
> desperate to a point, the impunity barons were considering eliminating
> either one, then blame it on Jakom. Mjasusi fulani got wind of this and
> informed Miguna and Tuju to be very careful as they could end up stopping a
> bullet the way Mboya did. It would then be blamed on their differences with
> Jakom. They had set Miguna and Tuju very well.
>
> Now, with all these coming to a cropper, the Barons have decided to engage
> new entrants into these character assassination mission. This is why you see
> some forum members here writing serious negatives about Jakom. They are
> hoping that by pouring heaps of dirt on him, at least one will stick. But,
> while this is going on, the battle at the house on the hills is throwing
> things into disarray. This is why Mutahi Ngunyi, the now confused political
> analyst was summoned to the house and given orders, and cash to boot, to go
> and "Finish" Ohuru's candidacy in his own network.
>
> Using tact and cunning maneuvers, hey threw som carrot at the donkey Jeff.
> Jeff in his unwitting lack of sense, invites Ngunyi on K24 for a "believable
> mother of all analysis", but to everyone's surprise, Ngunyi sits there and
> proceeds to dismantle Uhuru's candidacy on Ohuru's own TV station, almost
> reducing it to rabble. I bet at the end of that interview Ohuru was writhing
> in pain at thought of watching Jeff and Ngunyi.
>
> Ngunyi proceeded to dismiss the Luhyas as inconsequential in the voting
> process. He said that the Luhyas will be told what to do as though these
> noble people can not make a decision on their own. Ngunyi therefore was
> being used as the Silver bullet to stop UK's candidacy.
>
> These Silver bullets, have been distributed all over the place and many also
> write here in the forum. That means; if you want to get the "true" person,
> then move away from discussing politics. Just go onto the social front and
> you will be okey. Politics, and especially politics of Rao makes them
> tremble in the Heart. Such kind of happening can literally stop the heart,
> you know!! therefore you need to give Wa Mangi a break for being so negative
> towards Rao. It is just a job he is doing.
>
> Jagem
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Maurice Oduor <mauricejoduor@gmail.com>
> To: VuguVuguMashinani@yahoogroups.com
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> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 1:05 PM
> Subject: Re: (VVM Forum) Re: Rachel Shebesh Joins TNA
>
> KM,
>
> You really wish ODM to be just a Luo Nyanza party. You really want it that
> way.
> ODM has support all ove the country and just recently they won civic
> seats in NEP, Coast and Western, some uncontested. We have MPs from
> Coast and other provinces defecting into ODM but that still does not
> move you. Basi tu. You really wish ODM would just disappear. Why? Why
> do you hate ODM so much that you always delight in highlighting
> anything you perceive to be negative about it?
> Would you like ODM to be a tribal party like TNA which is a Kikuyu
> outfit? Or URP which is a Kale outfit? Or even UDF which you hope will
> be a Luhya outfit? Or Wiper , a Kamba outfit?
> Bad news KM. ODM is a national outfit no matter how much you keep
> wishing it would become a Luo outfit.
>
> Courage
>
>
>
> On 9/24/12, Kuria-Mwangi <kjmwangi@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Thank you Oduya. You and others including Miguna Miguna said the same but
>> were told off by these gnus. It is now coming to pass. Soon ODM will be
>> NDP. Let Omwenga, Lister and Obed start learning Dholuo unless they are
>> headed to Ford-People.
>> On Sep 24, 2012 9:21 AM, "Oduya - Magunga" <oduyaericson@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Dr Lister Nyaringo,
>>>
>>> Unlike Mark Kirario, you are not a good student. Some of these things you
>>> were told a few moons ago and dismissed them as propaganda. It's
>>> surprising
>>> that this time round, you guys are coming back to us crying like
>>> babies....
>>>
>>> Kamata hii;
>>>
>>> When it came to women, Raila didn't know how to separate safe from
>>> dangerous. Many a time, we were appalled to find him eating food brought
>>> to
>>> him by women I felt to be wholly inappropriate such as Rachel Shebesh,
>>> Ann
>>> Kariuki and Esther Passaris. He seemed to have a strange weakness for
>>> women
>>> of all descriptions. If he wasn't drinking with such women, he was
>>> spending
>>> too much time with sycophantic nincompoops like Paul Gondi, Mike Njeru,
>>> Tony Chege (prior to December 30, 2007), Jakoyo Midiwo, Oburu Oginga,
>>> Caroli Omondi, Mohammed Isahakia, James Orengo and others I saw as simply
>>> lazy layabouts. Anyone with money, regardless of whether it was stolen or
>>> obtained by legal means, was given direct access to him: The Jimmy
>>> Wanjigis, Ahmed Kassams, the late Njenga Karumes, S.K. Macharias, Stanley
>>> Githunguris, Harun Mwaus, and Charles Njonjos – name them!****
>>> The PM's office was host to a stream of characters holding briefcases and
>>> brown envelopes: drug dealers, money launderers, thieves, peddlers and
>>> pimps. Raila had become more of a political and a business dealer than a
>>> national leader. He was more comfortable with dubious wealthy men than
>>> with
>>> scholars, activists and intellectuals. In fact, Professor Oyugi kept
>>> reminding me, "Ja-Loka, Raila hates progressive intellectuals"......****
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> ***********************************************
>>> Oduya-Magunga,
>>> Cell: +256 756 116 303
>>> E-mail: oduyaericson@gmail.com
>>>
>>> ***********************************************
>>> I have tasted the wines of His love,
>>> smelt the fragrance of His grace,
>>> My God reigns, and that is,
>>> enough for my soul.
>>>
>>> ***********************************************
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* Lee Makwiny <amosogal@gmail.com>
>>> *To:* progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com
>>> *Cc:* "VuguVuguMashinani@yahoogroups.com" <
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>>> *Sent:* Monday, September 24, 2012 3:50 PM
>>> *Subject:* Re: [PK] Re: (VVM Forum) Rachel Shebesh Joins TNA
>>>
>>> Mr. 180 votes, how have you been?
>>>
>>> Gor did well, now Oduya et al do not want to associate it with ODM. I
>>> also
>>> hope you guys saw the destroyer in his attire!
>>>
>>> Thank you!
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 3:36 PM, Nyamodi Ochieng Nyamogo <
>>> okil@nyamogoadvocates.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Nd. Lister,
>>> But what else can ODM do?! It is doing pretty well as a
>>> rehab center for those with little else to offer but to be forever
>>> prayerful! They sing Hossanna till they are hoarse and if no manna
>>> falls from heaven, they simply skip town for the next port of call;
>>> again where they will have pretty little, if anything, to contribute!
>>> As for ODM, that loony asylum might even be worse than the Biblical
>>> Sodom and Gomorah, IF POSSIBLE!
>>> Nyamodi
>>> Ochieng-Nyamogo.
>>>
>>> On 9/24/12, Joseph Lister Nyaringo <diplomat1499@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> > I can't blame Rachel Shebesh, she is just done what many politicians
>>> > have
>>> > been doing as a principle of survival. I blame ODM for nominating
>>> > people
>>> > without proper vetting but rather through the Nyayo like political
>>> cronyism.
>>> > First of all, did Rachel merit the nomination? Secondly, how about the
>>> > rumours going on in tabloids about her disagreements with Madam Ida? If
>>> the
>>> > latter is true, then it's okay for her to exit the Orange Party, juu
>>> > bibi
>>> > akikataa maid, ata bwana akipiga nduru from the rooftops, she has to
>>> > go.
>>> >
>>> > Sent from my iPhone
>>> >
>>> > On Sep 24, 2012, at 3:38 AM, Muntu Misango <muntumisango@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Not many days ago, Shebesh was profusely defendig ODM on a TV
>>> >> programme.
>>> >> Before one could utter Jack Robinson, she is cohabiting with another.
>>> >> Shame of Kenyan politics. Are these politicians taking us for
>>> non-thinking
>>> >> morons who must continue stomaching their shit? When shall we get a
>>> single
>>> >> politician who says what he believes?
>>> >>
>>> >> I am an extemely worried person because it is difficult to see any
>>> >> difference between all the presidential aspirants. So why can't they
>>> just
>>> >> join together, have a single nomination, and suppor whoever wins?
>>> >> This
>>> >> would be much better for the country.
>>> >> Muntu
>>> >>
>>> >> On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 10:20 AM, Evans MACHERA
>>> >> <evansmachera@yahoo.com
>>> >
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> What are defections about;-
>>> >>
>>> >> Joining the "home party" or joining a party that has an appealing
>>> >> manifesto suitable to take the country to the next stage after
>>> >> democratically winning!
>>> >>
>>> >> And what really counts to be elected !
>>> >>
>>> >> a).Personality factor (where voters see the credibility of the person
>>> >> depending on their weighing scale),or
>>> >>
>>> >> b).The party factor ( where we have heard before that even a dog in
>>> >> the
>>> >> "right party" can be elected!
>>> >>
>>> >> In the New Political order (curtesy of the constitution),we shall have
>>> >> independent candidates.How likely are they going to not only be
>>> >> elected
>>> >> but perform without vehicles especially where lobbying and party
>>> >> affairs
>>> >> county over tribe that makes our bone sweet in jewing!
>>> >>
>>> >> Evans MACHERA
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> From: Oduya - Magunga <oduyaericson@yahoo.com>
>>> >> To: "progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com"
>>> >> <progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com>
>>> >> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 8:53 AM
>>> >> Subject: Re: [PK] Rachel Shebesh Joins TNA
>>> >>
>>> >> Hehehe
>>> >>
>>> >> Rev. KM,
>>> >>
>>> >> You have said what I feared saying, despite the fact that he's a slow
>>> >> learner, he's proved, with time, to be a good student of Miguna
>>> >> Miguna.
>>> >>
>>> >> Regards,
>>> >>
>>> >> ***********************************************
>>> >> Oduya-Magunga,
>>> >> Cell: +256 756 116 303
>>> >> E-mail: oduyaericson@gmail.com
>>> >>
>>> >> ***********************************************
>>> >> I have tasted the wines of His love,
>>> >> smelt the fragrance of His grace,
>>> >> My God reigns, and that is,
>>> >> enough for my soul.
>>> >>
>>> >> ***********************************************
>>> >>
>>> >> From: Kuria-Mwangi <kjmwangi@gmail.com>
>>> >> To: progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com
>>> >> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 8:28 AM
>>> >> Subject: Re: [PK] Rachel Shebesh Joins TNA
>>> >>
>>> >> Should had. Walisikwa. All in MM book. Didnt they attack MM then?
>>> >> ODMers
>>> >> are strange folks.
>>> >> On Sep 24, 2012 1:08 AM, "Oduya - Magunga" <oduyaericson@yahoo.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >> Huh.
>>> >>
>>> >> You are such a good student brother Mark. Did you say, he wanted or
>>> >> had?
>>> >>
>>> >> Regards,
>>> >>
>>> >> ***********************************************
>>> >> Oduya-Magunga,
>>> >> Cell: +256 756 116 303
>>> >> E-mail: oduyaericson@gmail.com
>>> >>
>>> >> ***********************************************
>>> >> I have tasted the wines of His love,
>>> >> smelt the fragrance of His grace,
>>> >> My God reigns, and that is,
>>> >> enough for my soul.
>>> >>
>>> >> ***********************************************
>>> >>
>>> >> From: mark kirario <mkirario.088@gmail.com>
>>> >> To: progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com
>>> >> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 8:03 AM
>>> >> Subject: Re: [PK] Rachel Shebesh Joins TNA
>>> >>
>>> >> Rachel Shebesh, wanted to hook RAO, and then mama IDA new all the
>>> >> development, n wao, shebesh forcefully shifted to TNA, atatosha kweli?
>>> >> Mark
>>> >> On Sep 23, 2012 4:23 PM, "[Muita Wangoko]" <muitawangoko@gmail.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >> Tom and other TNA fanatics,
>>> >>
>>> >> At this rate, am now considering joining TNA. Please don't ask me
>>> >> why,
>>> >> got my own reasons.
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> ...the most sane one,
>>> >> ./Eng. Mũita Wangoko
>>> >>
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