Ni kweli vibaka wanaudhi sana sana...kama hujaibiwa ukakuta gari imebaki kama scraper huwezi kujua maumivu yake ila mimi huw nawapiga rungu nahakikisha anaacha wizi kabisa...
From: weston mbuba <matutetz@yahoo.com>
To: wanabidii@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 11:58 AM
Subject: Re: [wanabidii] Kibaka alivyokatwa mkono na mguu Mali
No comment and I have not read this feature.
------------------------------
On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 09:30 PDT mngonge wrote:
>Its amazing and threatening to learn that such brutality acts were done by
>islamic fundamentalists who claim to be guided by shariah- Islamic law. I
>don't know whether such people with strict form of shariah will be among
>the leaders of " Mahakama ya Kadhi" in Tanzania after its inaugural?
>
>On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 5:58 PM, Mobhare Matinyi <matinyi@hotmail.com>wrote:
>
>> *Jamaa anasema walimfunga mpira ili kuzuia damu isije mkononi,
>> ukawekwa kwenye gogo, na bila ganzi jamaa akaramba mkono na kisha wakahamia
>> kwenye mguu haraka haraka. Anasema maumivu aliyoyasikia hayapo kwenye dunia
>> hii.*
>>
>>
>> Sep 13, 3:37 PM EDT
>>
>> North Mali robber describes Shariah amputation
>>
>> By BABA AHMED and RUKMINI CALLIMACHI
>> Associated Press
>> [image: AP Photo]<http://ap.stripes.com/dynamic/files/photos/F/fd497bbf-67a5-4570-9abe-60541636ae1b.html?SITE=DCSAS&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT>
>> AP Photo/STR *World Video* ** **
>> **
>> ** *Buy AP Photo Reprints*
>> **** <http://www.apimages.com/fronts/Default.aspx?sh=-6543>
>> ****
>>
>> BAMAKO, Mali (AP) -- Speaking from his hospital bed, a young man whose
>> hand and foot were amputated this week by the radical Islamic group
>> controlling northern Mali described an agony unlike any other - "a pain
>> that made me forget everything."
>>
>> Youssoufa Hamidou borrowed the phone of a hospital attendant and braved
>> the guards posted outside his door to call a journalist hundreds of miles
>> (kilometers) away in Mali's capital and tell the world what he went through.
>>
>> He is one of five cousins, all in their 20s, and all but one from the
>> village of Fafa, who were convicted of carrying out highway robberies.
>>
>> It's a crime punishable by double amputation, according to the strict form
>> of Shariah, or Islamic law, being applied with increasing frequency in the
>> northern half of Mali, which fell to al-Qaida-linked rebels five months
>> ago. Since then, an adulterous couple was stoned to death, a thief's hand
>> was cut off and numerous people have been publicly whipped, including at
>> least one woman.
>>
>> Monday's amputations of the five cousins in the northern city of Gao shows
>> how much Mali, once praised for its democracy and whose undulating deserts
>> and camel caravans were a magnet for Western tourists, has changed in just
>> a few short months.
>>
>> "When it was my turn, they took me blindfolded, and tied my right arm and
>> my left leg just above the ankle with plastic ties to stop the
>> circulation," Hamidou said. "Suddenly I felt a pain in my right hand that
>> was out of this world. My hand had just been chopped off. They put a
>> compress on it. Very quickly they cut off my left foot, and they also put a
>> compress on it to stop the bleeding."
>>
>> "At first I was afraid - but the pain I felt made me forget everything,
>> even my fear. Then the Islamists put us in a car and drove us to the
>> hospital."
>>
>> The 25-year-old spoke to The Associated Press on a phone handed to him by
>> a hospital worker. He spoke in his native Sonrai language in a voice so
>> weak that, at times, the attendant had to take the phone back to relay his
>> words. The interview, conducted over several hours Tuesday evening, was
>> interrupted more than once when the guards posted by the militants checked
>> on the amputees.
>>
>> Before the north fell to the rebels in April, Hamidou and his cousins
>> belonged to the Gandakoy, a self-defense militia made up of people from the
>> Sonrai ethnic group.
>>
>> "When our militia was chased out we held on to our weapons, and we used
>> them to hold up buses on the road between Gao and Niger. That was until
>> someone denounced us" to the Islamists, said Hamidou.
>>
>> North Mali's Islamist rulers make public spectacles of the brutal Shariah
>> punishments.
>>
>> Ibrahim Toure said he was talking with friends near the public square in
>> Gao, some 750 miles (1,000 kilometers) northeast of Bamako, when the
>> Islamists drove up and ordered people to gather around.
>>
>> "We understood that they were going to carry out a Shariah punishment, but
>> we could not have imagined what was about to happen," Toure said.
>>
>> The crowd tried to enter the square, but the fighters stopped them. "The
>> Islamists told us to go outside the square, and to stay behind the iron
>> bars that encircle it. ... It was then that we started to really worry,
>> because normally when they whip people, they let us inside. ... So we
>> realized that something even more horrible was about to happen."
>>
>> Toure and his friends watched as the fighters brought out a chair and tied
>> its legs and back with a rope to a pillar on a stage inside Independence
>> Square. Then the long-bearded "cadi," or Islamic judge, arrived and gave a
>> sermon, saying that within the territory the Islamic militants control
>> Shariah law would be applied.
>>
>> "He said that for highway robbers, Shariah calls for the right hand and
>> left foot to be cut off. And that four people had already had their limbs
>> cut off. And immediately a small child came running out of one of the cars
>> with a bag. We saw that it was dripping with blood," said Toure.
>>
>> The judge said the chopped off hands and feet of four of the accused were
>> inside the bag. The fifth man's limbs would be amputated in public in order
>> to serve as a lesson.
>>
>> The militants then brought the young accused robber out of the car, and
>> pushed him toward the chair.
>>
>> "It was unbelievable. The young man, he just followed calmly," said Toure.
>> "He had his eyes closed with a bandage. ... He put out his hand to be cut,
>> then he put out his foot to be cut. ... He didn't cry out, he didn't even
>> move. It's my impression that they must have drugged him - if not how can
>> you accept to let someone cut off your limbs?"
>>
>> One of the doctors who helped treat the amputees, said the Islamists
>> initially came to the hospital and asked the medics to carry out the
>> amputations.
>>
>> "We categorically refused," said the doctor, whose name is being withheld
>> by AP out of concern for his safety.
>>
>> The fighters left, and returned sometime later, carrying in the five young
>> men who were trailing blood, he said.
>>
>> "We could see that their feet had been badly amputated. They were in
>> indescribable pain. You could read that on their faces," the doctor said.
>> "To treat them, we were forced to break the bones in their feet, so that
>> the skin could cover the bone, which was poking out."
>>
>> Last week, the government in Bamako, which still controls the southern
>> half of Mali, asked the 15 nations in western Africa for military help to
>> take back the north. Radical militants in northern Mali were drawing
>> disaffected youth from other countries, warned the U.N. High Commissioner
>> for Refugees Antonio Guterres, in an opinion piece published in The New
>> York Times titled "Why Mali Matters?" The situation in Mali threatens to
>> create an arc of instability across the neck of Africa, he said.
>>
>> International condemnation has done little to stop the abuses in the north.
>>
>> Aliou Mahamar Toure, the Islamic police commissioner in Gao, said Shariah
>> law distinguishes between unarmed thieves and those who rob at gunpoint, a
>> crime that requires a greater punishment. He said the Islamists were only
>> carrying out the word of God, and that they had done everything they could
>> to make the amputees as comfortable as possible.
>>
>> "We took them to the hospital. ... Today we gave them new clothes," he
>> said. "And we have put them in an air-conditioned room. When this is over,
>> we will give them money - like a gift. ... They are now Muslims like us.
>> They are our brothers."
>>
>> ----
>>
>> Callimachi contributed from Dakar, Senegal.
>>
>> © 2012 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not
>> be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.<http://ap.stripes.com/dynamic/stories/A/AF_MALI_AMPUTATIONS?SITE=DCSAS&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-09-13-15-37-08#dd739666-2336-41b7-b70b-dcb8d02465eb>Learn more about our Privacy
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From: weston mbuba <matutetz@yahoo.com>
To: wanabidii@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 11:58 AM
Subject: Re: [wanabidii] Kibaka alivyokatwa mkono na mguu Mali
No comment and I have not read this feature.
------------------------------
On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 09:30 PDT mngonge wrote:
>Its amazing and threatening to learn that such brutality acts were done by
>islamic fundamentalists who claim to be guided by shariah- Islamic law. I
>don't know whether such people with strict form of shariah will be among
>the leaders of " Mahakama ya Kadhi" in Tanzania after its inaugural?
>
>On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 5:58 PM, Mobhare Matinyi <matinyi@hotmail.com>wrote:
>
>> *Jamaa anasema walimfunga mpira ili kuzuia damu isije mkononi,
>> ukawekwa kwenye gogo, na bila ganzi jamaa akaramba mkono na kisha wakahamia
>> kwenye mguu haraka haraka. Anasema maumivu aliyoyasikia hayapo kwenye dunia
>> hii.*
>>
>>
>> Sep 13, 3:37 PM EDT
>>
>> North Mali robber describes Shariah amputation
>>
>> By BABA AHMED and RUKMINI CALLIMACHI
>> Associated Press
>> [image: AP Photo]<http://ap.stripes.com/dynamic/files/photos/F/fd497bbf-67a5-4570-9abe-60541636ae1b.html?SITE=DCSAS&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT>
>> AP Photo/STR *World Video* ** **
>> **
>> ** *Buy AP Photo Reprints*
>> **** <http://www.apimages.com/fronts/Default.aspx?sh=-6543>
>> ****
>>
>> BAMAKO, Mali (AP) -- Speaking from his hospital bed, a young man whose
>> hand and foot were amputated this week by the radical Islamic group
>> controlling northern Mali described an agony unlike any other - "a pain
>> that made me forget everything."
>>
>> Youssoufa Hamidou borrowed the phone of a hospital attendant and braved
>> the guards posted outside his door to call a journalist hundreds of miles
>> (kilometers) away in Mali's capital and tell the world what he went through.
>>
>> He is one of five cousins, all in their 20s, and all but one from the
>> village of Fafa, who were convicted of carrying out highway robberies.
>>
>> It's a crime punishable by double amputation, according to the strict form
>> of Shariah, or Islamic law, being applied with increasing frequency in the
>> northern half of Mali, which fell to al-Qaida-linked rebels five months
>> ago. Since then, an adulterous couple was stoned to death, a thief's hand
>> was cut off and numerous people have been publicly whipped, including at
>> least one woman.
>>
>> Monday's amputations of the five cousins in the northern city of Gao shows
>> how much Mali, once praised for its democracy and whose undulating deserts
>> and camel caravans were a magnet for Western tourists, has changed in just
>> a few short months.
>>
>> "When it was my turn, they took me blindfolded, and tied my right arm and
>> my left leg just above the ankle with plastic ties to stop the
>> circulation," Hamidou said. "Suddenly I felt a pain in my right hand that
>> was out of this world. My hand had just been chopped off. They put a
>> compress on it. Very quickly they cut off my left foot, and they also put a
>> compress on it to stop the bleeding."
>>
>> "At first I was afraid - but the pain I felt made me forget everything,
>> even my fear. Then the Islamists put us in a car and drove us to the
>> hospital."
>>
>> The 25-year-old spoke to The Associated Press on a phone handed to him by
>> a hospital worker. He spoke in his native Sonrai language in a voice so
>> weak that, at times, the attendant had to take the phone back to relay his
>> words. The interview, conducted over several hours Tuesday evening, was
>> interrupted more than once when the guards posted by the militants checked
>> on the amputees.
>>
>> Before the north fell to the rebels in April, Hamidou and his cousins
>> belonged to the Gandakoy, a self-defense militia made up of people from the
>> Sonrai ethnic group.
>>
>> "When our militia was chased out we held on to our weapons, and we used
>> them to hold up buses on the road between Gao and Niger. That was until
>> someone denounced us" to the Islamists, said Hamidou.
>>
>> North Mali's Islamist rulers make public spectacles of the brutal Shariah
>> punishments.
>>
>> Ibrahim Toure said he was talking with friends near the public square in
>> Gao, some 750 miles (1,000 kilometers) northeast of Bamako, when the
>> Islamists drove up and ordered people to gather around.
>>
>> "We understood that they were going to carry out a Shariah punishment, but
>> we could not have imagined what was about to happen," Toure said.
>>
>> The crowd tried to enter the square, but the fighters stopped them. "The
>> Islamists told us to go outside the square, and to stay behind the iron
>> bars that encircle it. ... It was then that we started to really worry,
>> because normally when they whip people, they let us inside. ... So we
>> realized that something even more horrible was about to happen."
>>
>> Toure and his friends watched as the fighters brought out a chair and tied
>> its legs and back with a rope to a pillar on a stage inside Independence
>> Square. Then the long-bearded "cadi," or Islamic judge, arrived and gave a
>> sermon, saying that within the territory the Islamic militants control
>> Shariah law would be applied.
>>
>> "He said that for highway robbers, Shariah calls for the right hand and
>> left foot to be cut off. And that four people had already had their limbs
>> cut off. And immediately a small child came running out of one of the cars
>> with a bag. We saw that it was dripping with blood," said Toure.
>>
>> The judge said the chopped off hands and feet of four of the accused were
>> inside the bag. The fifth man's limbs would be amputated in public in order
>> to serve as a lesson.
>>
>> The militants then brought the young accused robber out of the car, and
>> pushed him toward the chair.
>>
>> "It was unbelievable. The young man, he just followed calmly," said Toure.
>> "He had his eyes closed with a bandage. ... He put out his hand to be cut,
>> then he put out his foot to be cut. ... He didn't cry out, he didn't even
>> move. It's my impression that they must have drugged him - if not how can
>> you accept to let someone cut off your limbs?"
>>
>> One of the doctors who helped treat the amputees, said the Islamists
>> initially came to the hospital and asked the medics to carry out the
>> amputations.
>>
>> "We categorically refused," said the doctor, whose name is being withheld
>> by AP out of concern for his safety.
>>
>> The fighters left, and returned sometime later, carrying in the five young
>> men who were trailing blood, he said.
>>
>> "We could see that their feet had been badly amputated. They were in
>> indescribable pain. You could read that on their faces," the doctor said.
>> "To treat them, we were forced to break the bones in their feet, so that
>> the skin could cover the bone, which was poking out."
>>
>> Last week, the government in Bamako, which still controls the southern
>> half of Mali, asked the 15 nations in western Africa for military help to
>> take back the north. Radical militants in northern Mali were drawing
>> disaffected youth from other countries, warned the U.N. High Commissioner
>> for Refugees Antonio Guterres, in an opinion piece published in The New
>> York Times titled "Why Mali Matters?" The situation in Mali threatens to
>> create an arc of instability across the neck of Africa, he said.
>>
>> International condemnation has done little to stop the abuses in the north.
>>
>> Aliou Mahamar Toure, the Islamic police commissioner in Gao, said Shariah
>> law distinguishes between unarmed thieves and those who rob at gunpoint, a
>> crime that requires a greater punishment. He said the Islamists were only
>> carrying out the word of God, and that they had done everything they could
>> to make the amputees as comfortable as possible.
>>
>> "We took them to the hospital. ... Today we gave them new clothes," he
>> said. "And we have put them in an air-conditioned room. When this is over,
>> we will give them money - like a gift. ... They are now Muslims like us.
>> They are our brothers."
>>
>> ----
>>
>> Callimachi contributed from Dakar, Senegal.
>>
>> © 2012 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not
>> be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.<http://ap.stripes.com/dynamic/stories/A/AF_MALI_AMPUTATIONS?SITE=DCSAS&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-09-13-15-37-08#dd739666-2336-41b7-b70b-dcb8d02465eb>Learn more about our Privacy
>> Policy <http://hosted2.ap.org/APDEFAULT/privacy> and Terms of Use<http://hosted2.ap.org/APDEFAULT/terms>
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>> Blogu ya Habari na Picha www.patahabari.blogspot.com
>>
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>> consequences of his or her postings, and hence statements and facts must be
>> presented responsibly. Your continued membership signifies that you agree
>> to this disclaimer and pledge to abide by our Rules and Guidelines.
>>
>>
>>
>
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>Blogu ya Habari na Picha www.patahabari.blogspot.com
>
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