Re: [wanabidii] DUA HII YA KUWAOMBEA WALIOTENGENEZA FILAM YA KUKASHIFU MTUME

Rashid, imani yako wewe inakufundisha kuwa nani anayebariki na kulaani
ni Mungu au mwanadumu mwenzako? Na pia imani yako inakufundisha ni
nani ameteuliwa na Mungu kuanza kuua na kuharibu mali ya wale ambao
huyo Mungu kawaumba?

On 9/26/12, rashid martin <rashidtz@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> jaman sio hiyohiyo bibli inayosema
> ataekubaliki atabalikiwa na atae kulaani atalaaniwa
> ktk four blessing and four curse
> hivi mmesoma what we call roman civilization tena after the death of Jesus
> Christ?
>
>> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 11:47:41 +0300
>> Subject: Re: [wanabidii] DUA HII YA KUWAOMBEA WALIOTENGENEZA FILAM YA
>> KUKASHIFU MTUME
>> From: tmagobe@gmail.com
>> To: wanabidii@googlegroups.com
>>
>> Rashid Martini, nukuulize swali: kama Mungu angekuwa na jazba na
>> hasira kwako leo ungekuwa wapi?
>>
>> Psalm 130: 3 inasema: "If you, Lord kept a record of our sins, Lord,
>> who could stand? But with you there is forgiveness, so that we can,
>> with reverence serve you..."
>>
>> Kama Mungu analipiza kisasi ina maana hata hao wanaojilipua na kuwaua
>> wengine na wanaoharibu mali za wenzao huwa anawaadhibu. Sasa kama hili
>> ni kweli sababu ya jazba, hasira inayozidi kiasi na kujilipua na kuua
>> wengine pamoja na kuharibu mali za wengine ni nini: dhawabu au laana?
>>
>> Haiingii akilini kumwombea mtu mabaya wakati wewe mwenyewe unafanya
>> mabaya. Binafsi naamini dua yoyote inayolenga maangamizi ya watu
>> haiwezi katu kupokelewa kwa Mungu anayetaka watu wasameheane. Luka 23:
>> 34 Yesu anawasamehe waliomtesa Na kuwaombea: "Baba uwasamehe. Hawajui
>> walitendalo..." Matthew 5:44 Yesu anasema: "But I say unto you, love
>> your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate
>> you, and pray for them who despitefully use you, and persecute you..."
>>
>>
>> On 9/26/12, ShimilimanaDeogratiasV@sau.edu
>> <ShimilimanaDeogratiasV@sau.edu> wrote:
>> > On Tuesday, September 25, 2012 4:03:36 PM UTC-5, rashid martin wrote:
>> >> tusiwe waongo na kutetea vitu bila ya sababu yoyote, aliyekwambia kuwa
>> >> Mungu hana hasira ni nani?
>> >> aliwafanya nini kizazi cha nuhu(noah) je aliwafanya nini kizazi cha
>> >> sodoma
>> >> na gomola kama sio hasira na jazba ni nini?
>> >> je sio huyo unaemuita Mungu aliwatimua adamu na eva bustanini? ulitaka
>> >> hasira na jazba zipi.
>> >> then sidhani kama mungu anawatoto or else ni makosa ya binadmu katika
>> >> bad
>> >> choice of vocabulary.....
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 10:07:40 +0100
>> >> > From: ngu...@yahoo.co.uk
>> >> > Subject: RE: [wanabidii] DUA HII YA KUWAOMBEA WALIOTENGENEZA FILAM
>> >> > YA
>> >> > KUKASHIFU MTUME
>> >> > To: wana...@googlegroups.com
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Baba wa hasira na jazba ni shetani.Kadhalika ndivyo walivyo watoto
>> >> > wake.Baba wa utulive,busara na amani ni Mungu mkuu kadhalika ndivyo
>> >> > walivyo watoto wake.Kauli hii ni mzani tosha wa kujua wewe baba yako
>> >> > ni
>> >> > nani?Ngupula
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > ------------------------------
>> >> > On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 11:10 AM EEST Charles Misango wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > >Fatma, nakuapia, kwa matusi mnayowatukana wakristo kila siku
>> >> > > wangeamua
>> >> > > kufanya kama baadhi (nasema baadhi maana nawajua wapo waislamu
>> >> > > makini
>> >> > > na wanaochukizwa pia na mihadhara ya baadhi yenu) ya waislamu
>> >> > > wanavyofura kwa hasira na kufanya vurugu, pasingekalika hapa.
>> >> > > Makanisa
>> >> > > mangapi yameharibiwa na waislamu kwa sababu za kitoto? Hata
>> >> > > wanadiriki
>> >> > > kutaka kuleta sheria za kiislamu katika shule na taasisi za elimu
>> >> > > zinazomilikiwa na wakristo, na wengine kuharibu mali. Je, umeona
>> >> > > wakristo wakichukua hatua za kuwashambulia?
>> >> > >
>> >> > >Unajua ni kwa nini Wakristo hawafanyi hivyo? Kwanza, ukimya pia ni
>> >> > > jibu
>> >> > > tosha! Pili, Yesu mwenyewe aliwaambia wafuasi na wanafunzi wake
>> >> > > kuwa
>> >> > > 'Kama waliweza kuutendea hivi mti mbichi, itakuwaje kwa ninyi miti
>> >> > > mikavu"; yaani kama waliweza kumtukana Yesu na kumdhihaki kwa
>> >> > > sababu
>> >> > > alijiita mwana wa Mungu, (kama wanavyokataa waislamu wote),
>> >> > > wakamtukana na kudai kuwa anafanya miujiza kwa nguvu za belzeburi
>> >> > > (mkuu wa mavi), hivyo, wakristo hawashangai na hawahangaiki pale
>> >> > > leo
>> >> > > wanapotukanwa!
>> >> > >
>> >> > >Dawa ya kuepukana na yote ni kwa kila mtu KUHESHIMU dini ya
>> >> > > mwingine.
>> >> > > Hubirini kwa kutumia kitabu chetu, sio biblia ambayo mnaipotosha
>> >> > > mno
>> >> > > na kwa uongo wa waziwazi!
>> >> > >
>> >> > >--- On Mon, 9/24/12, Godfrey Ngupula <ngu...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > >From: Godfrey Ngupula <ngu...@yahoo.co.uk>
>> >> > >Subject: RE: [wanabidii] DUA HII YA KUWAOMBEA WALIOTENGENEZA FILAM
>> >> > > YA
>> >> > > KUKASHIFU MTUME
>> >> > >To: wana...@googlegroups.com
>> >> > >Date: Monday, September 24, 2012, 7:16 PM
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >Bwana Rashid Martin,ni kwek marekani haiupendi uislam hata
>> >> > > kidogo.Na,ina kila vigezo vya kuuchukia.Ktk dunia na kizazi
>> >> > > tulichonacho,asilimia 80 ya human oriented disasters zinasababishwa
>> >> > > na
>> >> > > watu wanaojiita waislam. Leo hii waislam ndio jamii ya watu
>> >> > > wasioaminika hata kidogo,mfano alqueda,boko haramu,alshabab nk..
>> >> > >Marekani imepigwa mabomu ktk barozi zake afrika mashariki,na sasa
>> >> > > libya..pia kumbuka september 11. Marekani iupende uislam kwa
>> >> > > lipi.Kwa
>> >> > > sasa,huko tunakoelekea,sio marekani tu,kila jamii itawaona waislam
>> >> > > ni
>> >> > > watu wasiofaa kabisa kama hawatajirekebisha jazba zao na kuwa
>> >> > > wavumilivu.Swali la kujiuliza,ni rahisi sana.Je mtume Muhamadi
>> >> > > alikuja
>> >> > > kwa ajili ya watu au watu wapo kwa ajili ya mtume?je uislam ni kwa
>> >> > > ajili ya watu au watu kwa ajili ya uislam?ukijibu maswali hayo
>> >> > > hutaona
>> >> > > maana ya kuua mtu kwa ajili ya kutetea dini au mtume.Ngupula
>> >> > >------------------------------
>> >> > >On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 7:13 PM EEST rashid martin wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>dada fatmlamu yupo sahihi,kama marekani haichukii uilamu, vipi jina
>> >> > >> la
>> >> > >> barack hhussen obama lilete mushkeli? kama sio juhudi zake za
>> >> > >> kujitetea kuwa yeye simuislamu leo asingekuwa rais wa america.
>> >> > >> moja
>> >> > >> ya agenda ya Berline conference ilikuwa kuhakikisha uislamu
>> >> > >> unapotezwa kabisa usiwepo but cha ajabu kasi ya ukuaji wa uislamu
>> >> > >> ni
>> >> > >> ya ajabu
>> >> > >>unazungumzije bwana RUSHDA aliye tengeneza kitabu akakiita qur ani
>> >> > >> ni
>> >> > >> satanic verses nchini Irani mwaka 2008,then america na uingereza
>> >> > >> wakamsaidia kumpa hifadhi na ulinzi wa hali ya juu
>> >> > >>wamerika wakitaka kuishi kwa usalama wachane na jitihada za
>> >> > >> kujaribu
>> >> > >> kuharibu uislamu,
>> >> > >>Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 12:09:51 +0100
>> >> > >>From: mike...@yahoo.co.uk
>> >> > >>Subject: Re: [wanabidii] DUA HII YA KUWAOMBEA WALIOTENGENEZA FILAM
>> >> > >> YA
>> >> > >> KUKASHIFU MTUME
>> >> > >>To: wana...@googlegroups.com
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>Pole sana kayo yote yanayotokea dada Fatma,Nimesoma michango yako
>> >> > >> mingi huwa nafurahishwa na mawazo yako, hata hivyo kumbe ni mhimu
>> >> > >> kukubali kwamba binadamu hatuwezi kuwa na mtazamo wa aina moja
>> >> > >> kwa
>> >> > >> kila jambo, unapolinganisha Waisrael kuua Wapalestina na kuvamia
>> >> > >> kuua
>> >> > >> Lebanon au Wamarekani kuipiga Iraq na Afghanistan na kwingineko
>> >> > >> kuna
>> >> > >> uhusiano gani na dini za watu, Waisrael na wapalestina wanauadui
>> >> > >> wao
>> >> > >> wa miaka nenda rudi, hilo una fahamu, kwa nini Waisraeli wasiende
>> >> > >> kupigana nchi nyingine mbali ya hizo ulizozitaja.Pia umesema
>> >> > >> waislamu
>> >> > >> wapo kila mahala, je waislam wa kweli ni wale wa Libya, Tunisia
>> >> > >> na kwingine kulikofanyika vurugu tu, wengine siyo waislam wa
>> >> > >> ukweli,
>> >> > >> vipi wengine waliweza kulaani film hiyo kwa kauli na siyo kwa
>> >> > >> kuua
>> >> > >> watu wasiohusika?Tatizo la baadhi ya waislam ni kule kuamini swala
>> >> > >> la
>> >> > >> kutoa adhabu wao wenyewe, ambapo imani zingine wanaamin, mtoa
>> >> > >> adhabu
>> >> > >> kwa kumkosea Mungu ni Mungu mwenyewe, binadamu wenzake wanaweza
>> >> > >> wakamshauri mkosaji kwa kumuonyesha wapi anakosea, asipokubali
>> >> > >> basi
>> >> > >> ni yeye na Mungu wake, vinginevyo ukichukua nafasi ya Mungu kutoa
>> >> > >> adhabu unaweza ukajizolea dhambi bure na Mungu asifurahishwe kwa
>> >> > >> kumwadhibu binadamu mwenzako.Nilitegemea sana usingelikuwa upande
>> >> > >> wa
>> >> > >> wale wanaodhani serikali ya Kimarikani inahusika kwa namna yoyote
>> >> > >> kuhusina na film hiyo.
>> >> > >> From: "fatma...@yahoo.com" <fatma...@yahoo.com>
>> >> > >> To: wana...@googlegroups.com
>> >> > >> Sent: Sunday, 23 September 2012, 15:03
>> >> > >> Subject: Re: [wanabidii] DUA HII YA KUWAOMBEA WALIOTENGENEZA FILAM
>> >> > >> YA
>> >> > >> KUKASHIFU MTUME
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>Misango
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>Suala la kuua halina dini ila hulka za mtu. Waisrael wanapowaua
>> >> > >> Wapalestina na walipovamia Lebanon na kuua hadi watoto wachanga
>> >> > >> nao
>> >> > >> wanasemwa ni dini gani? Wamarekani wanapovamia nchi nyingine na
>> >> > >> kuwaua watu wasio na hatia kwa kisingizio cha kuweka demokrasia
>> >> > >> nao
>> >> > >> wanakuwa dini gani? Mnawalaumu watu kuweka. Udini humu kumbe nyie
>> >> > >> mnaupalilia acheni hizo. Punguzeni kututukana Waislamu hawako
>> >> > >> Libya
>> >> > >> na Misri tu na kuna Waislamu wengi tu wamesikitishwa na film hiyo
>> >> > >> lakini hawajafanya kitu ila kuwaombea dua kama huyu alieposti dua
>> >> > >> hii. Please give us a break
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>Fatma
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone on the Tigo Tanzania Network
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>-----Original Message-----
>> >> > >>From: Charles Misango <misango...@yahoo.com>
>> >> > >>Sender: wana...@googlegroups.com
>> >> > >>Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 06:32:34
>> >> > >>To: <wana...@googlegroups.com>
>> >> > >>Reply-To: wana...@googlegroups.com
>> >> > >>Subject: Re: [wanabidii] DUA HII YA KUWAOMBEA WALIOTENGENEZA FILAM
>> >> > >> YA
>> >> > >> KUKASHIFU MTUME
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>Waamini wa kweli kwa Mungu wa Kweli hawawezi kufanya fujo, mauaji
>> >> > >> ya
>> >> > >> kulipiza kisasi, kufanya mihadhara ya kutukana, kukashifu dini
>> >> > >> nyingne
>> >> > >>------------------------------
>> >> > >> On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 01:14 PDT Nico Eatlawe wrote:
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> >Sala hii ni agano jipya ya waislam! Nimependa sana. Kama vile
>> >> > >> > katika
>> >> > >> > Biblia kulikuwa na jino kwa jino na hatimaye Yesu kuleta neema
>> >> > >> > basi
>> >> > >> > neema nayo imefunuliwa kwa wenzetu. Wasibaki kuchukua sheria ya
>> >> > >> > Musa tu lakini pamoja na nema ya Yesu maana sheria ilikuwa
>> >> > >> > inawaongoza wanadau kwenye neema bila kuhitaji kuzini na
>> >> > >> > kukamatwa
>> >> > >> > ila kwa
>> >> > >> kuwaza moyoni tu tayari umeshazini.
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> >________________________________
>> >> > >> > From: ELISA MUHINGO <elisam...@yahoo.com>
>> >> > >> >To: wana...@googlegroups.com
>> >> > >> >Sent: Sunday, 23 September 2012, 8:58
>> >> > >> >Subject: Re: [wanabidii] DUA HII YA KUWAOMBEA WALIOTENGENEZA
>> >> > >> > FILAM
>> >> > >> > YA KUKASHIFU MTUME
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> >Kama hii ndiyo dua aliyoomba Mtume na ile ya kazi ya muislamu ni
>> >> > >> > kuua na kuuawa aliielekeza nani?
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> >--- On Sat, 9/22/12, rashid martin <rash...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> >From: rashid martin <rash...@hotmail.com>
>> >> > >> >Subject: [wanabidii] DUA HII YA KUWAOMBEA WALIOTENGENEZA FILAM
>> >> > >> > YA
>> >> > >> > KUKASHIFU MTUME
>> >> > >> >To: wana...@googlegroups.com
>> >> > >> >Date: Saturday, September 22, 2012, 11:14 PM
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> >
>> >> > >> >Dua hii ni bora kuliko yote yaliyofanyika tokea filamu hiyo
>> >> > >> > itengenezwe,dua hii ni bora kuliko hata maandamano, vurugu
>> >> > >> > n.kdua
>> >> > >> > yenyewe ni kama ifuatavyo....................Ee Mola tunakuomba
>> >> > >> > uwape akili tambuzi wale wote walioshiriki kutengeneza filamu
>> >> > >> > hiyo
>> >> > >> > watambue kuwa walichokifanya sio kizuri na sio busara, pia
>> >> > >> > uwabadilishe kama sio wawo basi vizazi vyaovije kuwa wachamungu
>> >> > >> > .........insh a llah Dua kama hiyo aliwahi kuiomba Mtume
>> >> > >> > katika
>> >> > >> > mji wa Twaifa na ikafanya kazi, tena baaada ya Mtume kupigwa
>> >> > >> > sana.hizo ndio dua za wacha
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