You will still have Lee, Oreje (Tom and Nelson, Laktar Nyandoto, JaGem, Mheshimiwa, Atheist, Millie, etc.). It's still a very deep bench. I will quote some American Presidential candidate who in the 50s said that "I wouldn't want to be part of a group that can not do without me".
Lee make a good decision. I was fighting with Maryann. It makes more sense to keep enemies closer. Mafia says "keep your friends close and your enemies even closer". He can then be able to monitor what the opposition is saying and incorporate that into a campaign strategy.
Warsama was simply getting rid of an irritant in a typical African dictatorship style. You kill all opposition and declare the country peaceful. He started a fight that in the end he could not handle so what better than do what Mugabe or Mobutu would do? You assassinate those that you can not beat by any other way.
If warsama ever becomes President or someone important, anyone who disagrees ith him will end up "sleeping with the fishes".
Sang was just following a herd mentality. He has no beef with anything that happened.
Dr. Matunda Nyamchama, PhD, is just a vain character who hates any dissent and can not debate anything. I don't even know who gave him a PhD. Aren't PhD students supposed to defend their theses? How did Matunda defend his thesis when he can't even debate a simple matter here ? He's also just another typical African politician with the kumalizana credo. And he wants to be Governor, Nyamira? I feel sorry for those Nyamira folks if Matunda ever becomes Governor. Anyone who says anything he disagrees with may end up in Ngong Forest.
We complain about lack of democracy in Africa but we can see our own dictators on these fora.
Courage,
Oduor Maurice
On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 9:08 PM, Kuria-Mwangi <kjmwangi@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Maurice
I was not aware of Africa Oped. I do hope that you return to the forums esp. PK where the likes
of Okil are already missing the exchanges we enjoyed days gone. As Rose says, you can see how you are missed and in other cases loved. You are making me envious with Rose claiming she loves you unless she can love more than than one. Hope she is not planning polyandry on us:)
We need both anti and pro Raila forces on these forums otherwise they will look too boring with only Raila bashing taking place. I am among a few who send articles and statements hoping to hear counter attacks from your side so Rao bashing without responses wont do anything for me.
Take careOn Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 8:11 PM, Maurice Oduor <mauricejoduor@gmail.com> wrote:KM thura,
I'm not on Africa-Oped either. I became a victim of herd mentality and
Daktari Matunda also expelled me. I don't know what his beef is but he
has a history of getting rid of people he can't beat in debates. He
got rid of Shem Ochuodho, Otieno Sungu; Elijah Kombo and others. But
oue battles go back to 2001 on KCO when I would admonish him for
referring to himself as Dr. Matunda Nyanchama, PhD. I would tell him
this was redundant since Dr already implied a PhD. That has never gone
well with him.
Courage
>> **
On 8/5/12, Kuria-Mwangi <kjmwangi@gmail.com> wrote:
> Rose
> Maurice has confirmed that he was banned in PK. I have evidence that he was
> also banned in KOL and of course
> in Uchunguzi and Change Mombasa. He still in VVM so lets not speculate on
> that unless somebody has contrary info. You can meet him in Wanakenya,
> Africa Oped and Wanakenya.
>
> On Sun, Aug 5, 2012 at 10:42 AM, ROSE KAGWIRIA
> <ikirimakagwiria10@yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Guys
>> Are you sure Maurice is OK? You make me wonder, why dont you aske how
>> somebody is before running into conlusion he has been banned. Whichever
>> the
>> case, the guys who are asking about him are his lovers. I think the new
>> moderator has banned him but for sure vvm cannot do that kind of
>> nonsense.
>> Oduya and his team are very mature though physically young.
>>
>> *From:* Nyamodi Ochieng Nyamogo <okil@nyamogoadvocates.com>
>> *To:* progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com
>> *Sent:* Sunday, August 5, 2012 1:04 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [PK] Bring Back Maurice
>>
>> Dear All,
>> Sorry, it appears news is a bit in front of me! I was out
>> of town, drinking chang'aa, at Ugenya Luhano, the home of one Maurice
>> Oduor, where once upon a time men were men and ALL women were happy,
>> but chang'aa has since achieved near irreparable damage!
>> Did anybody touch "His Idiotic Eminence" Maurice Oduor?!
>> Nobody, who wishes this forum well, is allowed such "development"
>> unfriendly luxury! Even Lee Makwiny, is expected to know that, every
>> forum deserves her own demented buffoon! Get the twit back in pronto!
>> But Maurice also, i kept warning the loony that such calamity
>> could befall him, if he kept swaggering stark naked, on the forum! Now
>> he is out of here, and abandoned me, without anybody to update me, on
>> a dedicatedly daily basis, on who is sleeping with who, in ODM! Oh
>> Lord, SMITE him with some brains, this once!
>> Nyamodi Ochieng-Nyamogo.
>>
>> On 8/5/12, rose.wanjiku88@yahoo.com <rose.wanjiku88@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > How did the devil find his way to once Catholic Boy. This devil at
>> > some
>> > point was a regular visitor to Kuria and Omwenga, all of a sudden he
>> > run
>> > away. How he ended up with Catholic Boy is subject of discussion.
>> > Sent from my BlackBerry®
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Kuria-Mwangi <kjmwangi@gmail.com>
>> > Sender: uchunguzionline@yahoogroups.com
>> > Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 14:23:16
>> > To: <uchunguzionline@yahoogroups.com>
>> > Reply-To: uchunguzionline@yahoogroups.com
>> > Cc: Kiswahili@yahoogroups.com<Kiswahili@yahoogroups.com>
>> > Subject: Re: [uchunguzionline] Fw: Bring Back Maurice
>> >
>> > Ndugu Khaguli
>> >
>> > If you are in PK, you would have known of two bearded ":sisters". One
>> > was
>> > shown the door, the other one is smelling the door. I dont want to
>> mention
>> > the one smelling the door because he has a very bad temper and can call
>> me
>> > names. My worry is that the two "sisters" have been separated yet they
>> are
>> > like Siamese twins.
>> >
>> > On a serious note, I hope MO tones down his rhetoric and returns to
>> > these
>> > forums. Something must have gone wrong in the recent past because he
>> > was
>> > never that angry and never used to insult anyone. Gone are the days
>> > when
>> he
>> > was said to be one who cannot hurt a fly.
>> >
>> > On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 2:15 PM, khaguli maurice <mkhaguli@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> **
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> KM?
>> >>
>> >> *From:* Kuria-Mwangi <kjmwangi@gmail.com>
>> >> *To:* uchunguzionline@yahoogroups.com
>> >> *Sent:* Saturday, August 4, 2012 12:09 PM
>> >> *Subject:* Re: [uchunguzionline] Fw: Bring Back Maurice
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Kibet:
>> >> Blood is thicker than water. One is expected to defend his sister
>> sio?:)
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, Aug 4, 2012 at 12:14 PM, john kibet <kcheruiyot@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> **
>> >>
>> >> Brother Orejee,
>> >>
>> >> I am amazed that you can defend Maurice Oduors INSULTS as being
>> >> 'agility
>> >> and enthusiasm." That he "was not involved in any abusive nature.." I
>> >> mean,
>> >> it is mind boggling because EITHER YOU HAVE NO SENSE OF DECENCY or you
>> >> just
>> >> came from planet Mars! You have no SHAME in saying what you just said
>> >> on
>> >> behalf of your pal Maurice?
>> >>
>> >> Don't get me wrong though. I am not an advocate of kicking people out.
>> >> I
>> >> myself was kicked out of KOL because of my INSULTS between Maurice and
>> >> Samuel Owmenga. BUT I LEARNED MY LESSON. It just happens that we have
>> all
>> >> kinds of people in these forums. We have PEDDLERS of LIES (and those
>> >> are
>> >> known) and those who ESPOUSE the truth. The thing is that most people
>> >> here
>> >> DON'T WANT TO READ ABOUT ANY INSULTS. We have to RESPECT that no
>> >> matter
>> >> how
>> >> much people like Maurice Oduor need and try to defend their lies. I
>> >> just
>> >> wish he was a WORTHY OPPONENT though , but he WAS NOT. Why? Because
>> >> first,
>> >> he was a liar. Second, whenever anyone said anything about his idol
>> >> Raila,
>> >> he called the said person a HATER OF THE LUOS. He couldn't back-up
>> >> those
>> >> allegations whenever he was confronted. As such, I was left to think
>> that
>> >> this is how RAILA FOLLOWERS think and believe whenever they are
>> >> "cornered."
>> >>
>> >> But hopefully, a grown up like him should learn his lesson. I wouldn't
>> >> have a problem having a REFORMED Maurice Oduor back, of COURSE MINUS
>> >> his
>> >> lies (if it can be helped). The surprising thing though is that I
>> >> never
>> >> though another Raila DISCIPLE would KICK Maurice out of PK forum. I
>> guess
>> >> we still live in the days of miracles. I must must say that I am
>> learning
>> >> something everyday.
>> >>
>> >> John K
>> >> University of Southern California
>> >> USA
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> *From:* "nelsonoreje@gmail.com" <nelsonoreje@gmail.com>
>> >> *To:* uchunguzionline@yahoogroups.com
>> >> *Sent:* Saturday, August 4, 2012 8:42 AM
>> >> *Subject:* [uchunguzionline] Fw: Bring Back Maurice
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone provided by Airtel Kenya
>> >> *From: * nelsonoreje@gmail.com
>> >> *Date: *Fri, 3 Aug 2012 16:05:11 +0000
>> >> *To: *<progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com>
>> >> *ReplyTo: * nelsonoreje@gmail.com
>> >> *Subject: *Bring Back Maurice
>> >>
>> >> This is my humble appeal to the moderator and the administrator of
>> >> this
>> >> forum. Never will you find a dedicated member of this forum more than
>> MO.
>> >> He engaged and kept the fire burning. His agility and enthusiasm was
>> >> beyond
>> >> the back of beyond. Let's give him credit and that he was not involved
>> in
>> >> any abusive nature. He tried to maintain a delicate balance coupled
>> >> with
>> >> threats from both in and out but still managed to soldier on. Now, my
>> >> friends Okil, Oduya Judy et al would not have a worthy competitor to
>> keep
>> >> them on toes. They won't have a pace setter who gives them the lee way
>> to
>> >> comment. The quietness in this forum will be like the one only
>> >> witnessed
>> >> when members are nursing hangovers. So Lee, it's my humble appeal to
>> >> allow
>> >> him back. Thank you
>> >> Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone provided by Airtel Kenya
>> >> *From: * Kuria-Mwangi <kjmwangi@gmail.com>
>> >> *Sender: * progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com
>> >> *Date: *Fri, 3 Aug 2012 11:37:27 -0400
>> >> *To: *<progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com>
>> >> *ReplyTo: * progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com
>> >> *Subject: *Re: [PK] Re: [uchunguzionline] Love Triangle: Raila,rachel
>> >> Shebesh Rueben Ndolo Cost the Latter the Makadara Seat,miguna Pg 547
>> >>
>> >> Lets see who goes earlier....You or me. I have never engaged in hate
>> >> speech like you and no longer insults anybody. Lee over reacted and
>> >> must
>> >> be
>> >> told so. Tell me what crime is there in forward a written article and
>> >> will
>> >> understand your umalaya mambo leo spiced in porojo and nonsense.
>> >>
>> >> Please keep peace or you will be following your other bearded
>> >> "sister".
>> I
>> >> dont understand how your sister went and you were left behind.
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 10:08 AM, <nelsonoreje@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> **
>> >> KM, stop whining like a gal over what Lee said. You were warned not
>> told.
>> >> Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone provided by Airtel Kenya
>> >> *From: * Kuria-Mwangi <kjmwangi@gmail.com>
>> >> *Sender: * progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com
>> >> *Date: *Fri, 3 Aug 2012 09:45:05 -0400
>> >> *To: *<uchunguzionline@yahoogroups.com>
>> >> *ReplyTo: * progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com
>> >> *Cc: *progressive-kenyans<progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com>; <
>> >> kenyaonline@yahoogroups.com>
>> >> *Subject: *[PK] Re: [uchunguzionline] Love Triangle: Raila,rachel
>> Shebesh
>> >> & Rueben Ndolo Cost the Latter the Makadara Seat,miguna Pg 547
>> >>
>> >> Anyumba:
>> >> I actually didnt believe that was in the book and was serious in
>> >> asking
>> >> whether it is penned by MM or was porojo from a from a forum which Lee
>> >> and
>> >> yours truly love to visit for juicy and sometimes interesting reads.
>> Some
>> >> of these stuff are hard to believe and so I dont blame Lee for getting
>> >> upset with me. I would, if I were in his shoes (and feeling unwell
>> >> which
>> >> would be tantamount to adding salt to injury).
>> >>
>> >> Good to read from you. That is all I aimed to see happen as opposed to
>> >> hitting at those who are reading the book. Lee gave us links of how we
>> >> can
>> >> get the book and so I expected he would want us to read it but it
>> >> seems
>> >> he
>> >> didnt want us read some sections of the book.
>> >>
>> >> We need to approach these issues soberly the way you did. I am in
>> >> agreement.
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 9:05 AM, ANYUMBA GEORGE
>> >> <anyumba462@yahoo.com>wrote:
>> >>
>> >> **
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> KM;
>> >>
>> >> This is rather flat and sounds like a village woman talking about a
>> >> co-wife. It is a pity!!! Miguna should not try his hands in "Adult
>> >> Business".
>> >> Does Miguna care that these women are married, got children and home
>> >> to
>> >> go
>> >> to? Now that epitomizes the very betrayal he so vehemently opposes.
>> >>
>> >> Afwande
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> *From:* Kuria-Mwangi <kjmwangi@gmail.com>
>> >> *To:* progressive-kenyans <progressive-kenyans@googlegroups.com>
>> >> *Cc:* uchunguzi online <uchunguzionline@yahoogroups.com>;
>> >> kenyaonline@yahoogroups.com; WanaKenya <Wanakenya@googlegroups.com>
>> >> *Sent:* Friday, August 3, 2012 8:21 AM
>> >> *Subject:* [uchunguzionline] Love Triangle: Raila,rachel Shebesh &
>> Rueben
>> >> Ndolo Cost the Latter the Makadara Seat,miguna Pg 547
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Wanjiru:
>> >> We agreed that we start reviewing Miguna Miguna by starting with sex.
>> >> Lets
>> >> do it babe and will be the first one to peel off the mask.
>> >>
>> >> Have not seen the book but I saw this maneno in anothe forum. Since
>> there
>> >> was unanimous decision as proposed by Okello and with only objection
>> >> coming from ndugu Afande, can you find out if this maneno are in the
>> book
>> >> or are created by evil minded people who wants to destroy the PM.
>> >> Fighting
>> >> over a married
>> >> woman and fight his most ardent supporter over a married woman? I will
>> >> believe it if you confirm that the stuff is the anti Raila Bible.
>> >>
>> >> miguna ," peeling the mask" pg547
>> >>
>> >> ".... January 1, 2012, Ndolo told me
>> >> that Rachel had told him that Raila had said he would kill Ndolo if he
>> >> didn't stop
>> >> 'seeing' Rachel. Now, do you know what that means?"
>> >> "What? That he would kill Ndolo for seeing that woman? Isn't she
>> >> married?"
>> >> "Dick, precisely my point, my brother. But it says more about Raila;
>> >> it
>> >> isn't
>> >> just shocking because Rachel is married. What is more shocking is that
>> >> Raila
>> >> could threaten to kill one of his bravest defenders and fighters
>> >> because
>> >> of a
>> >> woman. One more thing; Raila met Rachel through Ndolo, not the other
>> >> way
>> >> round."
>> >> "We have always suspected that the man is both ungrateful and evil."
>> >> "Oh, one more thing Dick: do you know that it was Raila who conspired
>> >> against Ndolo in the 2007 elections? That's betrayal. It is treachery.
>> It
>> >> is
>> >> dishonesty. It is pure, unmitigated evil."
>> >> "Oh my God!"
>> >> "Yes, once Raila realised that Ndolo would win the Makadara seat after
>> >> triumphing in the ODM nominations, he set out to undermine, to
>> >> frustrate
>> >> and
>> >> ultimately to ensure Ndolo's defeat. In the presence of many people
>> >> including
>> >> yours truly, Raila picked up a phone and telephoned Charity Ngilu,
>> asking
>> >> her
>> >> to put a Narc candidate in Makadara against Ndolo. Now you know how it
>> >> goes
>> >> in Makadara, don't you? Gikuyus are the majority, followed by Luos,
>> >> Luhyas,
>> >> Kambas, et cetera. By putting a Kamba/Narc candidate against a Luo/ODM
>> >> candidate, Raila calculated that Ndolo wouldn't get solid ODM/Narc
>> votes.
>> >> That
>> >> ensured the victory of a Gikuyu/PNU candidate. That's how Ndolo lost
>> >> the
>> >> election. And Raila did it again during the by-elections that were
>> >> held
>> >> recently in
>> >> Makadara. He hasn't just done it against Ndolo; he has been rooting
>> >> out
>> >> intelligent,
>> >> focused, hardworking Luos with leadership potential since time
>> >> immemorial.
>> >> What
>> >> do you think happened between him and Tuju?"
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