Mgamba,
Poti umenishambulia bure tu lakini vitu viko wazi kama ifuatavyo:
1. Yes, if Malawi commit any atrocious act, by international law, our motherland, Tanzania, will have the right to respond militarily.
2. In the case of a military response no one will have the right to tell us what to do with that leadership of Malawi; therefore, we will remove it to conclude the matter - that is natural, very natural.
3. Whatever military it will certainly be in the interest of Tanzania and her people. This is very easy to grasp.
4. Yes, we did it in Uganda and based on our security interest there was no single failure after the removal of Amin because we wanted to get rid of that madman and secure our borders. Didn't we succeed?
5. About the leadrs who came thereafter: Yusuf Lule was a provisional president elected by exiled Ugandan in Moshi; Binaisa came because of Lule's hopelessness - not ours; then Muwanga briefly while preparing for election, then 'our man' Obote who went on to kill people (avenging perhaps), and that is why we never helped him again; then Bazilio Okello briefly before Tito Okello taking over and losing the country to our real boy, Museveni. All of them were our men in a way, yes, but they were failing their country, not ours as we had already secured our country. In case you didn't know, technically, Museveni was put there by Tanzania, please recall his speech at Butiama on the day the world put Nyerere to rest although he didn't reveal everything. Remember also what Museveni told Tito Okello when they met at the State House in Dar es Salaam when Mwinyi was the president - Uhuru and Daily News reported.
Once again, Tanzania should be respected by every Tom, Dick and Jerry out there; this is a big giant taking its nap peacefully, and no one should either underestimate it or undermine it. In fact, this conflict should as well serve as a warning to anyone who, by mistake, thought or is still thinking that they could threaten Tanzania.
If necessary, Malawi will be disciplined militarily. Our leaders may be unimpressive in many other ways, but not in this case.
I applaud them! International politics is not that much easy the way some of us want to believe - and it is all about security first, then economics and the rest next.
We learnt our lessons in the 1970s, therefore, we will not repeat the same mistake again. This is what happened - in case anyone doesn't know/recall. Amin took over in Kampala, and Obote while on his way back to Uganda from Singapore escaped to Tanzania but his people, some of them, went to Sudan. Amin talked to Jaffery Nimeiry and they kicked Obote's people from Sudan, thus, they had to come to Tanzania through Tanga port. Then we had problems at the border because Obote, Okello and Museveni, etc., wanted to go back and retake their country; but Siad Barre brought us (Amin and Tanzania) together in Mogadishu; we signed an agreement stating that we will keep our troops far from the border. Amin broke the agreement but we kept a hope that the madman won't act like a madman; he threatened us, lied to the world, kidnapped and killed our police commander, and we still kept silent; then one day he invaded us killing a few thousands people, destroying our properties and stealing a lot. That is when we realized that our country was in danger - already too late. We learnt our lessons.
Matinyi.
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 23:05:50 -0700
From: rmgamba2000@yahoo.com
Subject: RE: [wanabidii] Tanzania advancing 'selfish agenda' on Lake Malawi
To: wanabidii@googlegroups.com
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Poti umenishambulia bure tu lakini vitu viko wazi kama ifuatavyo:
1. Yes, if Malawi commit any atrocious act, by international law, our motherland, Tanzania, will have the right to respond militarily.
2. In the case of a military response no one will have the right to tell us what to do with that leadership of Malawi; therefore, we will remove it to conclude the matter - that is natural, very natural.
3. Whatever military it will certainly be in the interest of Tanzania and her people. This is very easy to grasp.
4. Yes, we did it in Uganda and based on our security interest there was no single failure after the removal of Amin because we wanted to get rid of that madman and secure our borders. Didn't we succeed?
5. About the leadrs who came thereafter: Yusuf Lule was a provisional president elected by exiled Ugandan in Moshi; Binaisa came because of Lule's hopelessness - not ours; then Muwanga briefly while preparing for election, then 'our man' Obote who went on to kill people (avenging perhaps), and that is why we never helped him again; then Bazilio Okello briefly before Tito Okello taking over and losing the country to our real boy, Museveni. All of them were our men in a way, yes, but they were failing their country, not ours as we had already secured our country. In case you didn't know, technically, Museveni was put there by Tanzania, please recall his speech at Butiama on the day the world put Nyerere to rest although he didn't reveal everything. Remember also what Museveni told Tito Okello when they met at the State House in Dar es Salaam when Mwinyi was the president - Uhuru and Daily News reported.
Once again, Tanzania should be respected by every Tom, Dick and Jerry out there; this is a big giant taking its nap peacefully, and no one should either underestimate it or undermine it. In fact, this conflict should as well serve as a warning to anyone who, by mistake, thought or is still thinking that they could threaten Tanzania.
If necessary, Malawi will be disciplined militarily. Our leaders may be unimpressive in many other ways, but not in this case.
I applaud them! International politics is not that much easy the way some of us want to believe - and it is all about security first, then economics and the rest next.
We learnt our lessons in the 1970s, therefore, we will not repeat the same mistake again. This is what happened - in case anyone doesn't know/recall. Amin took over in Kampala, and Obote while on his way back to Uganda from Singapore escaped to Tanzania but his people, some of them, went to Sudan. Amin talked to Jaffery Nimeiry and they kicked Obote's people from Sudan, thus, they had to come to Tanzania through Tanga port. Then we had problems at the border because Obote, Okello and Museveni, etc., wanted to go back and retake their country; but Siad Barre brought us (Amin and Tanzania) together in Mogadishu; we signed an agreement stating that we will keep our troops far from the border. Amin broke the agreement but we kept a hope that the madman won't act like a madman; he threatened us, lied to the world, kidnapped and killed our police commander, and we still kept silent; then one day he invaded us killing a few thousands people, destroying our properties and stealing a lot. That is when we realized that our country was in danger - already too late. We learnt our lessons.
Matinyi.
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 23:05:50 -0700
From: rmgamba2000@yahoo.com
Subject: RE: [wanabidii] Tanzania advancing 'selfish agenda' on Lake Malawi
To: wanabidii@googlegroups.com
| Matinyi, You may have a good point but your conclusion is very outdated. You talk about invasion of another country, and restore or impose a sensible leadership? On whose interests anyway and who pays the bill for the so called invasion? How sure are you that after the invasion you will have a sensible leadership in Malawi that will listen to you? You did it in Uganda, but still the leadership that you imposed failed, and it has to take another eight years of brutal gorilla war launched by Yoweri Kaguta Museveni to bring Uganda in peace. All the men you chose to lead Uganda turned out to be hopeless. But again in this 21st century, it's really appalling for an intellectual like you to advocate invasion of a foreign country as well as imposing the leadership of your choice. These were the brutal ideas of George Bush, Condoleeza Rice, Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld—but they failed in Iraq as well as Afghanistan. --- On Mon, 8/13/12, Mobhare Matinyi <matinyi@hotmail.com> wrote:
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