Tuesday 14 August 2012

RE: [wanabidii] I shall die for Malawi - President Banda

Opps Mtwiu, this message goes to Nyasa Times.

 

 

From: wanabidii@googlegroups.com [mailto:wanabidii@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Salim mtwiu bitesigirwe
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2012 9:49 AM
To: wanabidii@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [wanabidii] I shall die for Malawi - President Banda

 

Hi Jesse,

Read well the source of this information-Nyasa times.

On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 5:00 PM, Jesse Kwayu <jesse.kwayu@guardian.co.tz> wrote:

Mtwiu, don’t even contemplate that Banda (Kamuzu), or Muluzi neither Mutharika could think of your unthinkable. Can you tell where in the world when mass water the like of Lake Nyasa that runs in the bourder of two sovereign states one can blindly claim the entire ownership of it with sounding greedy like what you are advocating here?

Be assured Joyce Banda is far intelligent and calculative beyond your imagination and ego.

 

From: wanabidii@googlegroups.com [mailto:wanabidii@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Salim mtwiu bitesigirwe
Sent: Monday, August 13, 2012 3:59 PM
To: wanabidii@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [wanabidii] I shall die for Malawi - President Banda

 

Lake Malawi/Nyasa row: Time to show strong leadership

 

At around the time of independence quite a few people in Tanzania wanted to claim a huge part of Lake Malawi or Lake Nyasa . Cool heads eventually prevailed, as most Tanzanians, including the legendary

President Julius Nyerere, understood the importance of respecting boundaries emanating from colonial times.

 

During most of Dr Kamuzu Banda’s rule, Tanzania never really pushed this crazy idea of dividing up the lake. The issue was almost forgotten during the rule of Dr Bakili Muluzi and thereafter. In fact, Dr Bingu wa Mutharika commissioned a company to start exploring oil in the lake. Tanzania said nothing at that time.

 

 

Now we have a new president and all of sudden the Tanzanians are demanding that our government stop all exploration activities in the lake until all border issues have been clarified. Why now?

 

Folks, there is a reason why we have tradition. Tradition may appear useless and outdated but it is important because it usually become established after a long experience. In politics there is what is known as ‘presidential protocol’. These are small things which over the years have proven to be niceties a president must or must not do in order to represent his/her country correctly.

 

Test for President Joyce Banda to diplomatically manage the dispute on the boundary

 

You would think some of them are not important but they are. Here are a few of them – presidents never bow for other presidents in public; presidents never escort anybody to their car; presidents walk with their arms spread outwards apparently projecting power and being in control; presidents usually put on a solid color (one color) necktie because it portrays power; when two presidents greet each other while facing the camera, each of them jostle to be on the right side so that his palm will face the camera- another sign of power, apparently; when in company of other presidents, they try to be the last one to enter the door – a fatherly gesture; there is an interesting video clip of Chairman Yassier Arafat and PM Ehud Barak jostling to be the last one to enter a room at Camp David. The sight of President George W Bush gently pushing PM

 

Gordon Brown into Number 10 Downing Street before himself angered some British political experts.

Statesmanship is a game because image is everything in international politics. A country’s image depends a lot on the demeanor of its leader. President Barak Obama likes to pat other leaders on their back after greeting them; you thought that was an unplanned coincidence? Just remember, how your father used to pat you on the back when you were a good boy!

 

It is said that Bill Clinton failed to get a good deal at his summit with Boris Yelsin in Moscow because President Clinton having sprained his ankle arrived in Moscow on a wheelchair. The sight of a sick American president is said to have psychologically emboldened Boris Yelsin. Ghana is said to have regained its respect in West Africa when President J.J. Rawlings arrived at the 25th Organization of African Unity meeting in Togo in July 2000 in a military uniform portraying a very youthful image.

 

The presidency is acted on a world stage. What a president says and does is very important!

When Joyce Banda took over the presidency, she made it appear like Malawi will now be doing everything the donor community tells her to do. In fact some British newspapers were so pleasantly surprised with this that they called us ‘a donor fearing nation’.

 

President Joyce Banda went to London and even bowed before Queen Elizabeth, a very strange gesture considering that both are heads-of-state. Well, all these words and actions have now collectively given an image of a weak leadership in Malawi. The world has sensed blood. Now Tanzania has decided it is time to split up the lake. Notice that they did not bring up this crazy idea when Muluzi or Mutharika were in charge.

If we dignify Tanzania’s unreasonable request, one wonders what the next thing will be. Are they now going to claim Chitipa? Will Mozambique now claim Mulanje Mountain?

 

Government must make clear that no part of Malawi is up for discussion – full stop! It is time to show strength. Tell Tanzania that Lake Malawi was, is and will always be Malawian.

 

Surprisingly, after all these arrogant statements by the Tanzania government, our government’s response is at best a whimper. The minister of foreign affairs has issued a statement saying the issue will be settled ‘amicably’. Really, Mr. Minister? What could be an amicable statement? Are you planning to even dignify Tanzania’s unreasonable demand? Do you plan to divide up the lake? How can you have an amicable settlement to an unreasonable demand?

 

Source: Nyasa Times

 

 

On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 3:30 PM, Telesphor Magobe <tmagobe@gmail.com> wrote:

Matinyi, wanaotoa maoni wanasema yale ambayo viongozi wao wameyasema:
"tuko tayari..." "tutalinda kwa gharama yoyote ile..." "tuna jeshi
linalofahamika na zana za kisasa..." Kwa hiyo, kuchangia juu ya kauli
hizi siyo sawa na kuchangia bila facts unless kama kwa facts
unamaanisha hizo sheria za kimataifa, ambazo pia hazijatajwa zinasema
nini kwenye mjadala wetu huu.

On 8/13/12, Mobhare Matinyi <matinyi@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Magobe,
> Hii pia:
>
> "Cowards die many times before their deaths;
> -- William Shakespeare.
>
> Nikipata muda nitasema kitu zaidi kuhusu huu mgogoro; ninachokiona ni watu
> kutokuwa na facts na historia ya nchi yetu. Baadhi mathalani wanalaumu mambo
> ambayo hayapo, na wala hajasemwa, na wengine wanashindwa kuelewa kwamba
> siasa za kimataifa haziendeshwi kama mahusiano yetu majumbani, maofisini,
> kwenye nyumba za ibada, n.k. Hivi vitu viko wazi tu ila kama mtu hapendi
> kufuatilia ila anapenda kuchangia, lazima atagonganisha mambo.
>
> Matinyi.
>
> ********************
>
>> Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 11:58:11 +0300
>> Subject: Re: [wanabidii] I shall die for Malawi - President Banda
>> From: tmagobe@gmail.com
>> To: wanabidii@googlegroups.com
>>
>> Matinyi, character mmojawapo kwenye kitabu cha "A Grain of Wheat"
>> anasema: "Cowards survive to see their mothers!"
>>
>> On 8/13/12, matinyi@hotmail.com <matinyi@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hakuna taifa lisilokuwa na watu waoga.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > T-Mobile. America's First Nationwide 4G Network
>> >
>> > ----- Reply message -----
>> > From: "Telesphor Magobe" <tmagobe@gmail.com>
>> > To: <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>
>> > Subject: [wanabidii] I shall die for Malawi - President Banda
>> > Date: Mon, Aug 13, 2012 3:31 am
>> >
>> >
>> > Those who long for war should start it and fight it themselves!
>> >
>> > On 8/12/12, Maurice Oduor <mauricejoduor@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> Nico,
>> >>
>> >> Yours is a strong voice of wisdom and reason. War over resources
>> >> should be avoided by all means.
>> >>
>> >> Too many times us Walalahoi are sent to war and we die there but the
>> >> resources we've fought for is then shared between multinational
>> >> companies and a few Walalaheris in government.
>> >>
>> >> Courage,
>> >> Oduor Maurice
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 8/12/12, Nico Eatlawe <eatlawe@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >>> This is not an issue that needs to be lookea at as a joke. It is not
>> >>> a
>> >>> matter of military or economic might. It is about God's opinion of it
>> >>> at
>> >>> the
>> >>> end of the day. Blessed are the peacemakers, Jesus said. Instead of
>> >>> us
>> >>> taking sides and arguing I think we need to ask God for negotiation
>> >>> to
>> >>> be
>> >>> successful. I congratulate Kibaki and Raila for not being arrogant
>> >>> and
>> >>> proud. It has saved the two countries many lives and money. We have
>> >>> not
>> >>> yet
>> >>> recovered from Kagera war and will never want to see any other war
>> >>> fought.
>> >>> I
>> >>> cannot forget my brother who fought in Uganda left children there and
>> >>> died
>> >>> after return of AIDS. Both countries should never think of overcoming
>> >>> poverty using resources that are found in the lake. It is a lie. We
>> >>> have
>> >>> more resources that are being mined but we remain poor. Even if oil
>> >>> is
>> >>> discovered it will not solve any of our countries' problems. Imagine
>> >>> of
>> >>> Nigeria will the oil they produce but who benefits? Let us not
>> >>> sacrifice
>> >>> our
>> >>> soldiers and
>> >>> people for the looters while we ended getting breadcrumbs! God
>> >>> forbid!
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>>________________________________
>> >>>> From: Judy Miriga <jbatec@yahoo.com>
>> >>>>To: Judy Miriga <jbatec@yahoo.com>
>> >>>>Sent: Sunday, 12 August 2012, 15:15
>> >>>>Subject: [wanabidii] I shall die for Malawi - President Banda
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Folks,
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Mobhare Matimy is right. Joyce Banda is wrong. She and her team need
>> >>>>to go back to drawing board and get her geo/history right before
>> >>>> calling
>> >>>> for
>> >>>>war. She has a lot to loose. This is exactly what happened to
>> >>>> Migingo,
>> >>>>where Kibaki and Raila for political gains, gave away Migingo to
>> >>>> Museveni
>> >>>>
>> >>>>for Bushes water, fish business trading with oil trading
>> >>>> exploration......While
>> >>>>Kagame of Rwanda is dishing out Congo and East Africa wealth
>> >>>> resources
>> >>>>for Clinton's business interests network.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>There must be order people and things must be done the right way
>> >>>> through
>> >>>>mutual common interest of all......."Give and Take".......
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Tanzania must protect its interests........and, the scramble to
>> >>>> Africa
>> >>>>must be done orderly as Africans too must have ways and means to
>> >>>>protect and preserve survival and livelihood of their people......
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>This is why, Africa must be included in the G20 club for Global
>> >>>> Emerging
>> >>>>Markets wayforward Agenda. Africa must not be left in the dark when
>> >>>> the
>> >>>>scramble to Africa aim at Africa's wealth resources.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>The Truth shall set us all free.........
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Judy Miriga Diaspora Spokesperson Executive Director Confederation
>> >>>> Council
>> >>>> Foundation for Africa Inc., USA
>> >>>> http://socioeconomicforum50.blogspot.com/
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>I shall die for Malawi - President Banda
>> >>>>By Nyasa Times Reporter August 11, 2012 · 52 Comments
>> >>>>Malawi President Joyce Banda on Saturday made an emotional
>> >>>> declaration
>> >>>> that
>> >>>> she shall die for the sake of her country, in what others see as a
>> >>>> defiant
>> >>>> insinuation to the threats of war by Tanzania on the ownership of
>> >>>> Lake
>> >>>> Malawi.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Speaking at a Ngoni traditional festival in the northern district of
>> >>>> Mzimba
>> >>>> on Saturday, Banda said emphatically in unrelated to the function:
>> >>>> "I
>> >>>> shall die for the people of Malawi. I shall die for the land of
>> >>>> Malawi."
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>The Malawi leader has not commented on the row with Tanzania.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Tanzania has been warmongering on the standoff over oil and gas
>> >>>> exploration
>> >>>> in Lake Malawi - also known as Lake Nyasa in Tanzania.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>But Malawi has been diplomatic on the issue and are arranging
>> >>>> showdown
>> >>>> talks on August 20.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>President Banda arriving at the Ngoni function. Photo by Amanda
>> >>>> Chiliro/Nyasa Times
>> >>>>The dispute of the third-largest fresh water resource in Africa has
>> >>>> escalated because Tanzania is demanding Malawi to halt exploration
>> >>>> activities granted to British company Surestream Petroleum for oil
>> >>>> and
>> >>>> gas. Surestream is currently conducting an environmental impact
>> >>>> assessment.
>> >>>>Meanwhile, a history and political science lecturer at the Malawi
>> >>>> Polytechnic, Simburashe Mungoshi suggests the dispute can only be
>> >>>> resolved
>> >>>> by compromise.
>> >>>>"When these boundaries were agreed upon by the British and Germans it
>> >>>> was
>> >>>> a
>> >>>> give and take game," said the lecturer on VOA.
>> >>>>"The British had to give up claims in some territories in Tanganyika
>> >>>> area.
>> >>>> Needless to say the Germans had also to give up. So in which case,
>> >>>> if
>> >>>> Tanzania wants a change in boundaries it would be a give and take.
>> >>>> If
>> >>>> they
>> >>>> want something they must give something. Malawi is a land locked
>> >>>> country;
>> >>>> we need access to the sea. May be they could give us an equivalent
>> >>>> piece
>> >>>> of land to take us to the sea."
>> >>>>Malawi insists the whole lake belongs to her and there is no way the
>> >>>> country can halt oil and gas exploration.
>> >>>>A home to about 1,000 endemic species of fish Lake Malawi is located
>> >>>> at
>> >>>> the
>> >>>> junction of Malawi, Mozambique and Tanzania. It sustains nearly 10
>> >>>> million
>> >>>> people in these three countries.
>> >>>>Dispute on Lake Malawi: Tanzania says ready for any provocation
>> >>>>August 3, 2012
>> >>>>Tanzania government has hit back at the statement by Malawi for its
>> >>>> claim
>> >>>> of ownership of Lake Nyasa, saying the country would defend its
>> >>>> territorial integrity and observe international laws.
>> >>>>The acting Leader of government businesses in Parliament, Samweli
>> >>>> Sitta
>> >>>> ,
>> >>>> said the Tanzania government was shocked by the information that
>> >>>> principal
>> >>>> secretary in Malawi's Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Patrick Kabambe
>> >>>> declared that the entire Lake Malawi also known in Tanzania as Lake
>> >>>> Nyasa
>> >>>> was wholly in Malawi.
>> >>>>Sitta who is also the East Africa Cooperation minister said Tanzania
>> >>>> government has been shocked by the statement because the discussion
>> >>>> concerning the ownership of Lake Malawi was proceeding.
>> >>>>Tanzania seeks 50 per cent ownership of Lake Malawi. The lake is in
>> >>>> the
>> >>>> southern part of Tanzania, bordering Malawi, and is reported to have
>> >>>> signs
>> >>>> of bearing oil and gas.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Kabambe: To continue engaging Tanzania in talks
>> >>>>He was commenting after a request for a government statement over the
>> >>>> issue
>> >>>> from MP Godfrey Zambi .
>> >>>>"My voters have been calling to inform me about the statement by the
>> >>>> Malawi
>> >>>> government that Lake Nyasa belonged to Malawi.this has interfered
>> >>>> with
>> >>>> people's activities and threatened their security," Zambi said.
>> >>>>Kabambe is quoted saying: "We categorically put it to them (Tanzania)
>> >>>> that
>> >>>> as far as we are concerned, the entire lake belongs to Malawi."
>> >>>>He cited an agreement of 1890 between former colonial powers that
>> >>>> stipulates the border between the two countries as lying along the
>> >>>> Tanzanian shore of the lake.
>> >>>>"Our terms are very clear on this, but we will continue to engage
>> >>>> with
>> >>>> Tanzania as a good neighbour," Kabambe was quoted by AFP News Agency
>> >>>> as
>> >>>> saying.
>> >>>>Meanwhile,Sitta according to The Citizen of Tanzania, assured
>> >>>> residents
>> >>>> around Lake Malawi in the Eastern African country that they should
>> >>>> carry
>> >>>> on with their daily activities: " The government is stable and ready
>> >>>> for
>> >>>> any provocation."
>> >>>>The development of the dispute dates back to the colonial era, but
>> >>>> gained
>> >>>> momentum in September last year. At that time the former Malawi
>> >>>> President,
>> >>>> the late Bingu wa Mutharika, awarded a British firm, Surestream
>> >>>> Petroleum,
>> >>>> a licence to prospect for oil and gas on the lake.
>> >>>>Tanzania on Wednesday called for an amicable resolution to the
>> >>>> dispute
>> >>>> with
>> >>>> Malawi over oil and gas exploration in the lake.
>> >>>>The two nations will hold talks on the disputed border in the
>> >>>> northern
>> >>>> Malawian town of Mzuzu on August 20.
>> >>>>--- On Sun, 8/12/12, Mobhare Matinyi <matinyi@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>From: Mobhare Matinyi <matinyi@hotmail.com>Subject: RE: [wanabidii] I
>> >>>> shall
>> >>>> die for Malawi - President BandaTo: "Wanabidii googlegroups"
>> >>>> <wanabidii@googlegroups.com>Date: Sunday, August 12, 2012, 9:26 AM
>> >>>>
>> >>>>Odour,
>> >>>>Altering the borderlines inside Lake Victoria will affect borders on
>> >>>> the
>> >>>> dry land and I don't anyone will be ready for that. Besides, Kenyans
>> >>>> are
>> >>>> not denied anything in the lake and that is why Kenya is competing
>> >>>> with
>> >>>> Tanzania and Uganda in exporting fish from the lake. The case of
>> >>>> Malawi-Tanzania is different because Malawi claims that the whole
>> >>>> lake
>> >>>> belongs to them. Tanzania is not trying to get half of the lake or
>> >>>> anything like equitable what and what, but half of the lake north of
>> >>>> River
>> >>>> Ruvuma (about 20% to 25% of the whole lake), which means Malawi will
>> >>>> still
>> >>>> keep the bigger portion of the lake. We will do our best to resolve
>> >>>> the
>> >>>> crisis, and should all means fail ,then we will take it by force,
>> >>>> let
>> >>>> Joyce Banda die for her dear country - if dying is that much easy.
>> >>>>Matinyi.
>> >>>>> Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2012 06:45:24 -0400> Subject: Re: [wanabidii] I
>> >>>>> shall
>> >>>>> die for Malawi - President Banda> From: mauricejoduor@gmail.com>
>> >>>>> To:
>> >>>>> wanabidii@googlegroups.com> > Leila,> I support the Tanzanian
>> >>>>> position
>> >>>>> that the lake be shared right down> the middle according to
>> >>>>> international
>> >>>>> standards.> That is what every country is doing now. It would be
>> >>>>> ridiculous if> Tanzanians living near the lake are denied fishing
>> >>>>> rights
>> >>>>> in Lake> Nyasa. Infact that would be pure lunacy.> > This issue
>> >>>>> reminds
>> >>>>> me that Kenya, Tanzania and Uganda should sit down> and divide Lake
>> >>>>> victoria equitably. As things stand now, Kenya owns> only 6% of L
>> >>>>> Victoria with TZ and Uganda sharing the remaining 94% !!!> that to
>> >>>>> me
>> >>>>> is
>> >>>>> rodiculous too.> > We should set aside all these artificial
>> >>>>> boundaries
>> >>>>> set by the> colonialists. The AU should take a lead in helping
>> >>>>> settle
>> >>>>> these> disputes.> > Courage,> Oduor Maurice> > On 8/12/12, Leila
>> >>>>> Abdul
>> >>>>> <hifadhi@gmail.com> wrote:> > Malawi President
>> >>> Joyce Banda on Saturday made an emotional declaration> > that she
>> >>> shall
>> >>> die
>> >>> for the sake of her country, in what others see as> > a defiant
>> >>> insinuation
>> >>> to the threats of war by Tanzania on the> > ownership of Lake
>> >>> Malawi.>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >
>> >>> Speaking at a Ngoni traditional festival in the northern district of>
>> >>> >
>> >>> Mzimba on Saturday, Banda said emphatically in unrelated to the> >
>> >>> function:
>> >>> "I shall die for the people of Malawi. I shall die for the> > land of
>> >>> Malawi."> >> > The Malawi leader has not commented on the row with
>> >>> Tanzania.> >> > Tanzania has been warmongering on the standoff over
>> >>> oil
>> >>> and
>> >>> gas> > exploration in Lake Malawi - also known as Lake Nyasa in
>> >>> Tanzania.>
>> >>>>> > But Malawi has been diplomatic on the issue and are arranging
>> >>>>> > showdown>
>> >>>> talks on August 20.> >> > The dispute of the third-largest fresh
>> >>>> water
>> >>> resource in Africa has> > escalated because Tanzania is demanding
>> >>> Malawi
>> >>> to
>> >>> halt exploration> > activities granted to British company Surestream
>> >>> Petroleum for oil and> > gas. Surestream is currently conducting an
>> >>> environmental impact> > assessment.> >> > Meanwhile, a history and
>> >>> political
>> >>> science lecturer at the Malawi> > Polytechnic, Simburashe Mungoshi
>> >>> suggests
>> >>> the dispute can only be> > resolved by compromise.> >> > "When these
>> >>> boundaries were agreed upon by the British and Germans it> > was a
>> >>> give
>> >>> and
>> >>> take game," said the lecturer on VOA.> >> > "The British had to give
>> >>> up
>> >>> claims in some territories in Tanganyika> > area. Needless to say the
>> >>> Germans had also to give up. So in which> > case, if Tanzania wants a
>> >>> change
>> >>> in boundaries it would be a give and> > take. If they want something
>> >>> they
>> >>> must give something. Malawi is a> > land locked country; we need
>> >>> access
>> >>> to
>> >>> the sea. May be they could give> > us an equivalent piece of land to
>> >>> take
>> >>> us
>> >>> to the sea."> >> > Malawi insists the whole lake belongs to her and
>> >>> there
>> >>> is
>> >>> no way the> > country can halt oil and gas exploration.> >> > A home
>> >>> to
>> >>> about 1,000 endemic species of fish Lake Malawi is located> > at the
>> >>> junction of Malawi, Mozambique and Tanzania. It sustains nearly> > 10
>> >>> million people in these three countries.> >> >
>> >>> http://www.nyasatimes.com/malawi/2012/08/11/i-shall-die-for-malawi-president-banda/>
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